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^ Yeah it breaks my heart to see most of the old time Boxers broke, all because of their shiity greedy managers, matter of fact it still happens a lot today.

Heres my take on it all. I really use to just be a huge Ali nuthugger I've been doing Martial Arts off and on for sometime now and whats not to admire about Ali his technique his skills all of it was just insanely sound right? Well when I finally watched Thrilla in manilla and saw how he treated Frazier after he helped Ali get his Boxing license back, Helped Ali with money leading up to their 2nd fight and then to have Ali sit their and deface the guy. I mean there is a line that needs to be drawn between douchebaggery and what Ali did and what Ali did and said just made me feel awful man. If Smokin Joe had not been blind for what? The last six years of his career which Ali was very VERY aware of, he wouldn't have lost to Ali in Manilla.. Ali was ready to quit and Frazier was willing to fight blind but his corner wouldn't let him. I always liked Joe as a person when my Grandma would watch boxing tapes and he was just a class act in interviews and his style was just an awful match up for so many boxers not to mention at the end of his career he wasn't as banged up as Ali and sitting poor as shit above his gym verse Ali getting rich and living well into his twilight years.. it's not fair by any means.. I'd more then bet it had a lot to do with his mangement.. it's just bullshit.

@ Karma, agreed the gun stunt was to far as well, I just feel he go caught up in the hype and let it go to far. Men make mistakes, especially ones under the pressure that Ali faced, but Ali is a great humanitarian who has done a lot of good out of the ring as well as in it. PS sorry it took to long to respond, the time difference in Australia makes us get the morning stories at midnight and I usually miss all the news :(

Beg my pardon, correction to above 200,000!! came to rushcutters bay to watch Jack Johnson defeat Tommy Burns

@Crow42, like your top 5 dude, but so many great names you could throw around for inclusion, great topic for discussion when you've got a cooler full of beers and youtube to check video's,love the fact you've included Jack Johnson, one of my favourite pieces of sports history are the tales of when he came to Sydney and fought, he pulled in 100,000 with fuck all promotion except word of mouth and newspapers

Joe frazier RIP
Funny how proberly his last thoughts was how he could destroy ali
Its no secret joe hated ali but the man really did hate 2 the point , that
He held a grudge long after their epic fights
Though joe not on my top 5 boxers of all time the man is a legend and owner of the best left hook in history(fuck u jeff lacy)
BOXING TOP 10
5-Ali(need I say more)
4-Jack johnson(this man was not just fighting in the ring, he fought the TIMES)
3-Henry armstrong(people get all exicted bout pacman 2 the point,they 4get another boxer who jump up in weight and destroyed everyone )
2-Sugar ray robison-(wonder where ali got his swag from his real swag , yup this man right here )
1-Joe Louis(someone asked ali who's the greates to u ? He said JOE LOUIS
Nuff said )(besides that the man had a 8year run with the title UNMATCHED)esp since the comp he had

RIP Smokin Joe, one of the greats from a time when boxings heavyweight division was stacked with great fighters. He will be missed

@ karma
Ya, great movie. It was shitty to see how much Joe took that shit to heart. With the answering machine and how he spoke of him. It seemed like a little piece of him was stuck back there in their last fight in Manilla. One of the greatest R.I.P Joe

@Gist--yeah, JDS and Velasquez are totally legit--fantastic athletes, well-rounded (and not in the midsection), and smart. I'm psyched for that one.

@dim Well as it's been said, people's skill are somewhat based on the rules of the match. If you only have to train for 15 minute matches, your cardio obviously won't be as good if you had to train for 15 3 minute rounds.

@dim mak: Guess that's a reason to look forward to Cain/JDS.

@dim mak Right on, brother

Looking at Frazier and Ali underscores what fat slugs most MMA heavyweights are. Can you imagine many UFC or Bellator HWs going 15 rounds? Or even bouncing on their feet at all? Speaking of which, BJ Penn needs to do nothing but jump rope for the next six months, and then he'd come back and clean house in both the WW and LW divisions.

Frazier will always be one of my favorite boxers, right up there with Marciano and Jack Johnson.

Gonna hook up my Sega Genesis tonight, pop in Greatest Heavyweights and kick a little butt with Smokin Joe. RIP.

Ali didn't have to use the toy Gorilla and those words..

Yeah Thrilla in Manila is a real eye opener, but Fuck Ali? thats a little harsh, Ali was under a lot of pressure and that doco was kinda one sided, I see what you guys are saying I was shocked with some of Ali's behaviour but he is a legend and a great man that lived in a crazy time under difficult circumstances, I think Ali was easily led and chose bad company, Don King, NOI, either way the issue is debatable. RIP Smokin Joe

Hey, CagePotato - you guys are awesome, thanks for this, great videos.

jfjjfjff is right Fuck Ali and the Movie thrilla in Manilla is great. Thanks for keeping it real homie.

thrilla in manilla is great, take it from someone who doesnt like karma. RIP joe frazier.
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also: fuck mohammed ali.

ALSO theres a Movie called "Thrilla in manilla" Explains a lot of what people never got to see I recommend everyone who loves boxing check it out.

I am a huge fan of old school boxing and Joe has always been one of my idols in boxing in general. It's a sad day RIP THE LEGEND, Smokin Joe Frazier.