Why does it take an old timer like me to remind everyone that Mike Russell trains at a 10th Planet satellite camp in Canada?

I love the hate on here. On Cagepotato video of Eddie toying with high level MMA guy = Eddie sucks. Seriously, Eddie's shit is cool and he's really good at it, he deserves props. To the journalist here, stop making claims about his technique's usefulness in MMA. Until it happens, that shit is unfounded. You don't do him any favors making unfounded claims. Also, it really is OK to just be an awesome grappler.

What the hell IS a UFC Fighter?

A blue-belt from my gym beat a UFC fighter in a no-gi tournament this year. So that makes him as good as Eddie Bravo, right? Or does that make Eddie Bravo as good as him? Logic is tricky sometimes.

@TheCanadian My point is this: Bravo has a good game that works for him, but people who are new to JJ think he's invented all this crazy fakey to nose grind Houston control positions that don't work. If he's so great, then he should be competing, winning competitions, if not him then his students should be - but none of them are. So if his methods are that great he should have legions of champions in all the tournaments and have a ton of MMA fighters working with him. Where are they? The FACTS are in - he doesn't produce champions, his students AREN'T winning tourneys, so his system is not that great. Period. Facts are facts. He gets all this attention from flashy moves, yet no serious BJJ practitioner does them. All the top guys - Roger Gracie, Jacare, Marcelo Garcia etc all use basic, fundamental JJ.

If Edgar Cano was to demonstrate his technique against a Ben Henderson or other top named fighter ... he would get some props from this corner.
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Until then, mass opinion is he is "B" League.
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If anything, you have to ask which is more slicker. The resin from his bong hits wafting through the gym , or the sweat? As for the gear, both had lots of clothing on, there was nothing unfair.

You guys really think he's not that great or innovative? Hmm, I have to admit that I'm MUCH better at punching people in the face and not getting punched than at grappling but I have done my fair share - a striker has to grapple these days. I like many of Bravo's positions and transitions and I use them to stifle more traditional grapplers a lot. It's just another tool in the belt, so to speak, but it's a very good one (in my opinion). I personally don't think Bravo is overhyped.
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Nice, as usual, RWilsonR

@LukeTheDuke - LOL. So Eddie Bravo is the best in the world at BJJ?!?!? Pulling some numbers out of my ass, I would bet there are at least 100 Americans that could beat him in a BJJ match and several hundred Brazilians. He's a great jiu jitsu player, but let's be real here. The reason he's on Cagepotato is he's best friends with Joe Rogan.

The fact of the matter is, Eddie can do this to anyone he wants on the mat. In pure jiu jitsu this guy is a scary person. Don't make comments like you all have actually achieved his level of speed/flexibility on the ground. All you fuckin' shit talkers go to his gym and challenge him to a "sweatpants" only match, and you might learn some humility as a result.

Well put^^^

Honestly as said before in the previous posts all you have to do is look at the results in grappling tournys.

Im from the SoCal area and have been loomin around the BJJ circuit for a while both in SoCal and Vegas and you NEVER see a 10th Planet guy place in anything other than NOVICE. Its Boutique Jiu Jitsu, it looks cool but doesnt ever really work.

The only reason Eddie does so well is because Rogan is a brown belt under him and plugs him in EVERY single UFC that comes on. So after every PPV that comes on all of those kids that want to become the next ULTIMATE FIGHTER buy a Mastering the Twister book before they look into how to pass the guard the correct way. Free publicity on a grand scale = Eddie Bravo undeserved HYPE.

I just think it is telling that you don't see much of Eddie's specific style in high level grappling or MMA. You do see some in grappling competition, though not with the singular focus Eddie has on it. This stuff isn't a secret... it is out there, Eddie is a shameless self-promoter with books, videos, etc. So I think the reason you don't see more of it has to show to a large extent that this either isn't effective in MMA competition, or isn't accessible to most fighters who lack the flexibility of an orangutan. There are some techniques that can be extremely effective, but only when employed by a select few fighters who have the specific talent to use them. For lack of a better example - most fighters don't readily go for leg locks. They are high risk in that a sweaty leg is hard to keep hold of, and if you fail, you've purposely put yourself in a really bad position. But when someone like Palhares goes for them, his technique, strength, and aggression on the hold make it extremely effective for him.
Another example would be that Anderson Silva's dancing around stand-up, hands by his side taunting, etc, would not be how you would want to train someone in effective striking technique. That's because Anderson can physically do things most other people can't do. Hard to argue that it isn't effective, just wouldn't be effective for someone not named Anderson Silva.

Rec d.harn x 1000 for Chappelle ref

Eddie would twist anybody on this post into a screaming pretzel, "Hater gonna hate, Lovers want to love, I dont even want, none of the above I want to piss on you."

It seems like an unbelievable way to control posture and it's really cool that you can threaten an omoplata or a triangle almost at all times. I haven't rolled with a ton of guys that utilize it well and I'm about as flexible as my grandpa, so it's out of the question for me.

I don't know if we can say that certain martial arts or variants of them work or don't work yet in MMA. I was pretty sure Karate was proven to be commercial garbage not long ago, but Machida makes it look pretty effective these days. I think someone could come along with a great bottom game and use this well. BJ would have an insane rubber guard if he chose to. He's got a great mix of flexibility, strength and BJJ know-how, which would translate well.

to those of you knockin the gi? who has won abu dahbi in the past several years that trains EXCLUSIVELY no gi??? no one. The gi teaches importance of grip. When i stop training for a couple months with it, i get noticeably sloppier and progress slower. And to the punches comments, once you're broken down...its physics- YOU ARE NOT going to knock somone out without base/good posture- no one can, you can't produce power with your arms in less than a foot of distance.

if you're smart,good, and know what your doing...you can avoid getting caught there in a fight and focus on doing damage, most of the time, but this is grappling. i'm sitting here defending rubberguard and i don't really even like it. wierd

you can't knock eddie's technique- because he's fucking good. period. For someone not rolling against someone with a GOOD rubberguard, it's kind of a mindfuck. Once your posture is broke, you're in a lot of trouble. I personally can't use ruberguard... I've had knee surgery, and it puts a lot of load on the ligaments of the knee... against someone who is really powerful with good posture, you can tear your shit if you aren't flexible enough. Getting hit/elbowed in the face really does change things- however one his leg is over...an elbow means you're prettty much exposing your back etc. If you're in the ufc... you should know not to put your hands on the mat agaisnt eddie bravo,thats his game, the dude has wrote several books on this. then again rolling with bravo is easier on this side of the computer screen

FilmDrunk provides #4 to Fred's other three legit points. It isn't that what Bravo does isn't good, innovative, or effective in certain circumstances. It is just those circumstances would be very very difficult to replicate in an MMA fight.

Eddie's the fucking man, dudes.

Deck & Guru, Legendary Collaboration.

its burt reynolds from gator how can you not see that? Burt Reynolds, The Vest.

This statement: "If you’ve ever wondered how 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu founder Eddie Bravo would do against a UFC fighter on the mats, your wait is over."
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The use of 'a UFC fighter' in this statement is the kind of oversimplification you'd find in total newbs talking about MMA. Ever wonder what a UFC Fighter eats? Ever wonder how a UFC Fighter would fare against a grizzly bear?
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One fighter on the UFC roster is not remotely indicative of anything. Is this guy even a grappler? Obviously, he knows where to put his hands *for the most part* because he does put them on the mat and leave some ridiculous openings.
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All that said, keep kicking ass on the mats, Bravo.

I just don't understand why Eddie Bravo continues to be so polarizing and divisive to those in the MMA and Jiu-jitsu communities. Maybe bc it's seen as new and different and the traditionalists don't like that. Whatevs. Eddie, keep on rockin it

How stupid are some of you people. You are allowed to wear shirts and pants in no-gi. It means nothing that he is doing so. You just don't have the gi, and are not relying on the ridiculous collars and sleeves, which are NOTHING like what the clothing bravo is wearing provides for control over your opponent.

Rubber guard works great if you're a ridiculously flexible Gumby like Eddie. But how many dudes do you know that can get their own foot behind their ear? Especially muscular ones. ...And God knows I've tried. Trying to get muscular guys' feet behind their ears is my favorite hobbie.

@Taco

"If you’ve ever wondered how 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu founder Eddie Bravo would do against a UFC fighter on the mats"

ON THE MATS. As in the jiu-jitsu mats. As in, how he would do against a ufc fighter in a jiu-jitsu match.

@fxdfp
Great name, but what are you trying to prove with that statement? It says right in the article he has been tapped out (once) before. Congratulations, you managed to wiki the thing being stated outright in the article.

Haters gon' hate. Its always entertaining to watch bravo do his thing.

@mikerip
Vinny Magalhães in this year's mundials used plenty of rubber guard to set up sweeps and submissions.

Yes these moves are more difficult to pull off when sweaty and under fire (most submissions are). However, it is hard to deny that many of these techniques are effective. Over the next 10 years you will see some of them used in the UFC and top grappling tournaments. The basics will always be important to learn, but Jiu-jitsu will evolve like everything else, and new moves like these will become more prevalent.

I bet fighters like nick diaz and donald cerrone could incorporate some of these movies successfully on the big stage.

Yeah, the sweatpants definitely won this for Eddie, And every fight where Aoki wore long pants as well. Fucking cheaters

@Get off me
silva/sonnen was largely sonnen's fight.
Better examples would be cerrone/bendo 1 or mighty mouse/torres

Who is the 10th Planet nuthugger that keeps writing these CagePotato articles? Eddie Bravo is a solid jiu jitsu player, but show me anyone who's won the Mundials, Abu Dhabi, or even a UFC fight with the rubber guard? IT DOESN'T HAPPEN!

And for a guy who claims he practices no gi so it will adapt to MMA he certainly makes every attempt to cover himself up with clothing and other friction creating gear.

That Gang Starr song in the video is the shit.

@jimbonics

Bravo Sir!

Sadly the judges would've scored it for Mizugaki.
See Sonnen/Silva for what consideration a judge will give you for working from the guard.

Depends. Who are you supposed to be? ‘Topper Bottoms, the stern-yet-sensual skipper of the U.S.S. Rough Service’?

^Haters^

"After Faber was able to sink in a rear naked choke, Mizugaki refused to tap and as a result, was rendered unconscious." Get off Eddie's nuts - Mazugaki isn't a BJJ practitioner. If Eddie is so great then why did NONE of his students even place at the last big no gi tourney in LA? Either they don't compete or they don't don't win.

I don't agree. Number one, Eddie has all types of clothing on to help with his grip. In MMA fights, the fighters are all sweaty and don't have sleeves and such to help them hold on to the rubber guard. Number two, there were lots of chances to punch Eddie in the face, head and body. Good hard punches would be a game changer, as seen before in MMA fights where the person on the bottom tries to pull rubber guard. And finally number three, Cecil Peoples and the other typical MMA judges don't reward being on bottom, no matter how effective the fighter may be.