Exactly man wtf! Did you see the interview where Dana tries to have us believe that everyone else fought a hell of a fight on this card? Apparently the Liddell/Rua fight was a battle. Yeah I must have missed thast. The UFC sucks man and I'm tired of this b.s.. Joel Silva is a little bitch and we never get to see any of the fights until 1 fighter is done just like Liddell Rua. That should teach them to stop playing these big mind games with the cards to try and hype everything up instead of just making fights happen like every other organization.

Fuck Silva and Leitis and give me Edith and her huge tits.

Craig I agree with you completely. The only thing that I feel is that if Leites wants the fight to go to the ground then he should take an active effort to take it their rather then falling down hoping Silva will fall on him. That being said Dana white should make an effort to make Silva's last fights or whatever he has left in him worth watching. I'm ok with the lack of action at the first minute 30 only because this is a 5 round fight. So its understandable for both fighters to be a bit hesitant to engage at first while they feel each other out.

Both fighters have a responsibility to engage. At least the first 1:30 there were what, 3 attempted strikes with nothing connecting? Wouldn't change much if you looked at the first 2:00. The argument that it's Leites' responsibility to take the fight to Anderson is silly. They're both there to win, and both have the same at stake.

Neither a nuthugger nor a hater be.

Did you guys see that Big Titted bitch Edith at the event?

I'd like to introduce her to my Giant Penis.

no just an opinion

What are you writing a book!

I usually don't post but I feel inclined to in this case. From what I felt after watching the fight was that from Silva's perspective if Leites wants the fight to go to the ground he should take the initiative and try and take it there. Rather then just falling on his back with one arm behind his head every 30 seconds. I was not impressed with that at all. Granted Silva is a HUGE threat when it come to strikes and alot of guys would get knocked just trying to take him down but then thats why he is the middleweight champ. I had no problem with Silva being protective and elusive, however I did have a problem with him mocking his oponent rather then trying to put him away. Its not as if Leites was running away the entire time like another fighter...in which case 'rock' quarry was justified in his mocking. But instead Leites did at least stand in front of Silva giving him enough chances to knock him down. That being said UFC should either stop wasting Silva's time with openents that are not at par or afraid to engage. THis is simply due to the fact that he's retiring soon and the fans would prefer to see better caliber fights from him. Maybe he should just relinquish the middleweight belt and stay at 205 from now on. As far as Lidell goes, I didn't see any significant change in his fighting. Its become very obvious at this point that alot of the younger fighters have disected his fighting style. Maybe its time for him to either consider retirement or see if he as it in him to revamp his fighting style. Maybe rely more on his wrestling and ground game..maybe even a ground and pound..at this point anything would be more effective then standing as the sideways walking target that he's become. Personally I dont' think he's done just yet. Maybe a little vacation followed by him learning some new things could help him keep in the game as a fighter. I'd like to see him in one more fight..maybe not against an elite level fighter but against some lighter competition so he could have the chance to try out a new game plan. As far as SHOGUN goes he gave an awesome showing. Its a little hard to tell if he completely fixed his conditioning problem but he came prepared and I felt as if i sarted to catch a glimpse of the Shogun of old. That being said i'd like to see him have a rematch with Forest Griffin or even Rampage. I think it would be a good test and accurate measure of his skills post surgery.

Chuck Liddell vs. Matt Hammil at UFC 101. or maybe Brandon Vera or Tim Boetsch. you pick

come on guys , all this talk about silva is gettin old . how come people aint giving rua credit? he looked like the old shogun.

Thales Leites looked more like Jenna Jameson in that fight. He just kept laying down and spreading the legs.

HA!! Im soo glad that the one dimensional Chuck is DONE! All the shit that fans talk about Tito Ortiz at least he has more tools in his belt and he NEVER lost 4 outta 5 fights back to back... Tito would've never let Rua up after a take down, Chuck didnt know what to do with top postion, never once put his hands up to block. Just so sad I knew it was gonna happen to him again.

He just cant hang with real MIXED martial artist

I AM THE COOLEST, TOUGHEST GUY ON THIS SITE. I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT AND I THINK THAT I WILL LET YOU BITCHES WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THE NEXT PPV. I WILL SIT AT HOME AND FUCK HOOKERS AND DRINK BEER AND SMOKE DOPE. I WILL CATCH THE CLAP AND GO INSANE AND ENJOY IT BECAUSE I AM A SUPER TOUGH FUCKING GUY. ANDERSON SILVA CAN BLOW ME. CHUCK LIDELL CAN BLOW ME. GSP CAN BLOW ME. I WANT HOOKERS AND DOPE. FUCK THE UFC.

If a fighter has to behave as a contender, even if he is the champion, than what is the point of being champ?

I would think that if anyone wants to be the champ he would have to fight like a champion! I don't think Leites fought like one (at least he didn't fight like Silva prior to being champ!)

Silva vs. Bisping now now now!!!!!! then we'll see a fight. And we'll see Bisping lose! lose! lose! there's no reason that that can't happen if Penn can get a title shot right away, or 98% human dna can get a title shot on his second or third fight in the league against the greatest.

To the people saying it's the challengers job to put the heat on is pure bullshit. According to that logic, everyone who reaches the top should just dance, taunt, and try to avoid anything threatening. Leites actually tried to bring the pressure, and failed again and again. After that, it was just Silva dancing and showing off.

If you want to talk about true champs, Fedor went into Tim Sylvia fight with ALL THE HYPE any fighter can get. All this "The Best P4P Fighter" "Undefeated" "The Mystic of Fedor" blah blah blah. He was already considered by many to be the best. And what did he do? He went in the ring GUNS BLAZING and reaffirmed that title. Now that's a champ.

well, what can i say. sure, silva's fucked if they keep putting chumps in front of him. even after a cakewalk victory the fans heckle him, but it'd be a different story, methinks, if a true contender were in his face. somebody who was gunning for that title rather than lying on his back waiting for his opponent to choose a stupid gameplan. so, champ he remains and good on him, i guess. as for chuck - i already stated once that hope he becomes the first MMA legend to acknowledge reality, retire gracefully and continue on in whatever capacity he will, but outside the ring. it's pathetic to see these guys fall but keep to it, then become 'gatekeepers' to up and coming fire breathers in their divisions. peace.

I don't blame Anderson Silva for the performance, i think that blame falls on Leites for his game plan being; not to throw down, get kicked in the leg 100x, and last but noot least, the good ol' dodge a punch by falling on the mat to hopefully piss off anderson silva to the point of going to the ground with him.

sure silva coulda gone in there and swung wildly and been more aggressive, but that also risks the chance of getting caught easily. the ufc just needs to produce more fighters who aren't afraid to throw punches at anderson silva. GET THE FACK IN THERE BISPING.

I'm back bitches! And for my next blow-out, I'll murder Quinton again.

I don't understand all the Silva bashing, I think it's all BS. For one, Silva's the champ, and he was the aggressor most of the fight, because Leites barely challenged or tried taking the fight to Silva. Silva didn't have to TKO or KO Leites to remain champ, he just had to score the decisive victory (and he did). Leites had no answer for the standup, and there were a few moments in the fight when Silva had him against the cage and began throwing big shots and I believed the end was imminent. As for the leg kicks, they're legal, and effectively damaging. Silva was just as frustrated as the fans were. For a little while I though Silva was fighting Kalib Starnes. Leites was terrible, and the victory went to the right fighter.

One fight down, and one to go. All I need now is for GSP to beat Alves, and we mma fans will finally get to see a real, bonafide superfight. Not just a promotional hype fight billed to be a superfight. If the UFC wants to line up champ vs. champ fights, there's no better fight that Joe Silva can match up than GSP vs. Silva.

As for the people saying the Spyder was a poor sportsman during the match, what match did you see? Bisping vs. Hamill, and Bisping's post fight in-ring comments was truly pathetic and in poor sportsmanship.

FWIW, Anderson Silva had two records on the line last night, most consecutive title defenses, and most consecutive UFC wins, which he achieved both. Not that it influenced a conservative performance and victory, Silva did what he had to to earn his place in the record books. He won, fair and square.

Fuck Chuck Liddell and Fuck Dana White too!

I only paid for the PPV because Chuck was on it. No thanks UFC I think I'll pass on the next Anderson Silva fight it's not like I'm going to miss much. Besides I can catch all the boring action the next day on websites like these! So FUCK OFF DANA WHITE and SUCK A DICK!

From beyond the grave, PRIDEFC stabs you in the heart.


Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


(Please, tell me someone was smart enough to have a videocamera pointing at Silva and White. I WANT to see their faces. $kala will have nothing on them.)

Throw the dude who beat the shit outta Tommy Spears in there, at least he is an unorthodox striker who is not afraid to engage his opponent, hell even tho he doesn't really deserve the chance at least it would have made for an interesting round one way or the other, but seriously the UFC needs to STOP putting Silva in a main event until they can find a worthwhile opponent, and even then it shouldn't be the main-card

Can you imagine Silva vs. Bisping? There might be entire rounds without a punch or kick thrown.

I'd say Silva put himself at risk plenty of times:


1) dancing in the cage - risky if your adversary is worth a dime.
2) punching the leg - risky if your adversary is not in a wheelchair OR Leites.
3) just standing there, arms along body - risky if your adversary can move his arms


Maybe next time they should match him with someone other than a quadriplegic.

Everyone is talking about how terrible this match up was and how anderson shouldn't have fought cote or lietes or blah blah blah--- but you're all neglecting one thing:

Wasn't Anderson the one who said he wanted to "clean out the mw division"? This entails trimming down ALL the contenders, regardless of their pedigree.

Okami, cote and lietes are ALL second tier fighters, but if you claim your mission is to "clean out the division" you need to go through them in a convincing, dominating fashion.

Anyway, as a Silva fan-- I was severely disappointed in these last two fights. They make him look like a pretentious, out-of-touch douche nozzle who's forgotten why he gets paid to climb in the octagon...

Leites and Silva bouth put up horrid fights but there is a big difference between the two. Leites obviously tried a bunch of times in the fist 2 rounds to strike with silva, hell he even threw like 5 flying knees. From a BJJ fighter. How many times did Silva take offense ? 0 ? Leites KNEW Anderson could take his head off and the only way to win was jits. He took more riskes than Silva even though he did lay on his ass a bit too much. He didn't take many risks but he DID take risks. In the face of obvious danger from Silva.

Now..

Look at Silva. Round one leites got him down and obviously couldnt do anything to Silva. So Silva is safe on the ground and standing. Basicly no real threat at all once the BJJ wasn't a big threat. How many risks did Silva take ? NONE. Anderson could have easily steped that shit up a notch or 15 and ended the fight in almost any round. Thats the big difference.

Leites was cautious due to imminent danger, Silva was cautious because hes lazy and only counter strikes. Wrong sport. Silva doesn't wan't to fight Brazilian fighters ? Wrong sport.



WTB some fucking yellow cards for the UFC, I'm sure there are some left over from the box's they got from Pride.

Silva's fight was boring. Leites sucked. Silva wants to fight, and he wants to counterpunch. They should at least put an aggressive fighter up there who will take a swing. Not some boring-ass Brazilian who falls to the ground ever five seconds.

Silva is the next Bruce Lee! He got hit like once or twice in a five round fight. Amazing! I think he is just bored with the people he is having to fight. He showed how one dimensional Thales feally is. Thales was so scared it was funny!

It's Danas fault Silva enters the fight with all your expections, I'm not a big Silva-fan, but the guy is fun to watch since he does what he does in an effective and entertaining way.
I enjoy fighting because of the art, not of seeing people beat eachother senseless, I can see that downtown on a friday night. But I guess people who think Silva is boring does not share my view on this.

To sum the night up for me:

+It was nice to see Shogun back.
-God damn audience made me hate a whole country.

DW sure likes to take a swing @ Fedor, however... when Fedor comes to fight we are gonna see a knock-out or a tap out, as great a fighter as Silva is I'm afraid the only thing we'll see from him is a bore-out unless the UFC can throw the right style fighter against him.

I agree, Leites didn't do his part. I don't think that gives the champ a pass, though. It takes two to fight. You guys tryin to tell me that the career path of a fighter is

1 work your way up the ranks, make a living

2 make it to the big show

3 show everyone your heart and skill to earn a title shot

4 do as little as you have to do to keep your belt

I call bull shit on that.

Alright ladies, I completely agree that Anderson shouldve finished it by a way other than unanimous decision. I disagree with all the hating though. People should be dissing Leites. He was the real bitch in this fight that you guys should hate. Its cool though, at least the people who matter actually know that anderson is clearly better than everyone, still P4P best next to Fedor, and is still champ.

YES! Agree completely.

Winkle Dinkle Says:
Sun, 04/19/2009 - 09:09

You guys don't think that Silva was possibly sending a message not to waste his time with opponents that aren't a challenge?


you're right. they keep giving him fights like this, and he'll retire without thinking twice

For all the talk of changing up his camp, Chuck still kept his lead left down. Every time he jabbed he took a shot. Rua rocked him. There is no doubt about it. However, I wonder if anyone else saw the (at least) 3 solid hammer fists to the back of Chuck's dome. Would he have recovered? It wasn't a KO blast like the one he took from Evans. I don't know if it would have made a difference, but those shots were clearly in violation of the "mohawk" rule. Thoughts?

I agree with you mmadude84, it would be a fun fight to watch. Hopefully it will happen. Maybe next year if Shogun get some more solid W's

cane cantwell without a doubt deserved fight of the night, and i will say it again both liddel and couture NEED to retire

Yeah well if you're not willing to take a risk and play Silva's game and be the aggressor then he's going to out point you and win via unanimous decision.

WTF people want?

Silva is the champ. he has nothing to prove to anyone.

It's the contender who should get in there guns blazing, all or nothing.... Just like Silva did prior to becoming the champ.

those knee kicks by silva were fucked up and the dancing was very gay, other than that he didnt bring anything to the fight either. Thales didnt really fight a great fight but you can't expect him to play silva's game and just get KOd for everyone's sake

That's right.

The contender should take it to the champ. Not the other way around.

It looked like Silva went the whole fight just warming up waiting for the contender to start it... but it never happened.

Only aggressive fighters bring out the best in Silva. Leites and Cote were too passive...Silva was bored.

I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF US WANT TO SEE A FUCKING FIGHT WHEN WE TUNE IN ON PPV OR ATTEND A LIVE SHOW. ANDERSON SILVA HAS NOT DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT PROVING HE IS THE CHAMPION IN HIS LAST 2 FIGHTS. I'M A HUGE MMA FAN, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST FANS TO THE SPORT BUT AS OF HIS (SILVA'S) LAST 2 FIGHTS I SHOW LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS MUCH MORE ACTION, DOMINANCE, AND EXITMENT IN STREET FIGHTING FLIX ON THE WEB THEN HE IS OFFERING TO US FANS. HE SHOULD BE STRIPED OFF HIS BELT, AND PUT ON THE UNDERCARD FROM NOW ON AND WORK HIS WAY BACK UP TO THE TOP, AND IF HE DID'NT LIKE IT THEN SHOW THE MOTHER FUCKER THE DOOR, AND MAKE SURE IT HITS HIM IN THE ASS ON HIS WAY OUT. SILVA SURE IS DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB AT HELPING ME THROW AWAY MY FUCKING MONEY ON THESE PPV EVENTS. YOU'LL SEE SOON ENOUGH SO SHUT THE FUCK UP, AND THINK ABOUT IT YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

wtf people.

A.) Happy to see Shogun's back on the right track, some absolutely awesome potential there.

B.) Obviously last night's headliner was boring, but reallllllllly people. When a GOOD opponent has fought Silva, it's never been boring. You come to beat a champ, make a fucking effort. If you don't want to risk the knockout standing up with him and YOU being the aggressor, it's understandable. But at least have another component, say... TAKEDOWNS. I respected Leites before this fight. Can't say the same now.

C.) Wiman got robbed? Are you kidding? Any points he got were from takedowns. And every time he took him down Stout was ending up in mount or just worked his way to the cage and stood up. Desperate takedowns with a terrible ground game. 2 botched sub attempts. He was getting dominated standing up even after poking Stout in the eye. And what was with the hair flipping? Kid looked emo meets lumberjack. Guess he is trying to reinvent himself, lol. So much for "handsome". Bahahaha. Get some cardio, please.

-lotp.

I'm not saying Shogun would destroy Rampage if they fought again. Rampage is a far better fighter now than he was back in Pride. However I'd like to see them fight again! I think it'd be close fight and definitely a toss up, but one that would not go to decision for sure!

Is Dana White so scared that Liddell might find a paycheck in some other organization that he tries to categorically retire him from fighting altogether? He could make a few more bucks as a gatekeeper somewhere else, at least for a couple fights.

DW's worst nightmare would be for Chuck to make a few bucks elsewhere and raise the profile of another organization. That being said, Chuck's days at the top of the food chain are over, anywhere.

Too slow there son!!!

I like how if you think a fight is boring you're not a "Real" mma fan. Fuck that. If Silva is the best P4P in the world he could have finished Leites.....hell I don't even expect a KO, how about a TKO of ANY kind. Show me something Anderson.

MMADude84- Look, Shogun may have beat Rampage in a quick and dominate fashion, but Wandy also destroyed Rampage the first few times. The new Rampage would destroy Shogun, no question

Wiman got robbed. That was a split decision for him. Fuck Anderson Silva! Farewell Chuck... Oh yeah, when did Wiman turn into Evan Tanner?

Some of you guys that were bashing Silva, were on this same site just last week praising him and calling him the pound for pound best in the world. You make yourselves look stupid by acting pissed because Silva didn't knock Leites out. You're obviously not REAL fight fans, and have no understanding of the technical aspects of fighting. How many of you have ever studied any of the arts or even been in a real fight for that matter. All you guys seem to care about is if someone gets knocked out or cut. Any of you ever knock anyone out??? The fighters, believe it or not are not barbaric. They are athletes and competitors just like football, basketball, and baseball players. Ever watch a low scoring football game, it's the same principal. The two teams strategies nullify each other, and there is a bunch of punts, and slow action. Do some research, take a martial arts class, gain some knowledge, enter a toughman contest or something because, you're making yourselves look really silly with some of the SHIT you say.

That Wiman fight was a great fight, so the "really?" in this article wasn't deserving. If anything, the "really?" would need to be applied to the bullshit judging in the match. There is no way that was a unanimous decision.

Also, Silva said several times, he didn't want to fight another Brazilian. Doesn't make it better, but that on top of lack of a true challenge, is probably why we saw that display.

Silva won by mystique, fear, and the Force.


Let's see you do better, bitches.

Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! I've seen better fights at Pee Wee hockey games.
that main event was fuckin embarassin for the UFC

Poor Chuck. God bless him. Props to Rua.. big win.

How does that work? The majority were already writing Shogun Rua off stating that Chuck was going to KO Rua. "An old Chuck is better than an out of shape Shogun", as many have stated. Now after Shogun pulls off an impressive TKO victory and has looked phenomonal since signing with the UFC the critics are still trying to turn it into a hollow win. Chuck might be old, but so is Randy Couture and Dan Henderson, both are still competiting at a top level. As far as Shogun being destroyed by top 5 lhw he's already beaten Rampage in quick and dominant fashion! The casual fickle fans will never appreciate Shogun and his tremendous talents.

Also Anderson Silva fought a smart fight. Why should he play into Leites game plan by engaging him on the ground where he's the most dangerous? If anything styles obviously make the fight and when you have a world class BJJ opponent who's unwilling to engage standing up against arguably the best p4p striker, sometimes you inevitably wind up in stalemate. Anderson Silva should be defending his title against top tier competition, someone who will pose a real threat to the champion! Silva deserves more respect than that. If anyone were to be booed, it should have been Leites for trying to survive rather than engaging to win the fight.

Hell the UFC should start implementing the yellow card just like they did in Pride. That would prevent future debacles such like last nights catastrophe from reoccuring.

johan are u on crack, Silva would smash GSP so hard. come on now he got knocked out by a midget

Silva has that kinda confidence which the other fighters seem to cower to, that being said, these guys are being given a chance at the title and they should be ready to wage war against Silva but they never seem to be ready, they lack power speed and aggresion against him. Another thing in Silva's advantage is his height, he is always the taller fighter and this works too well in his favour whether on the ground in his guard, tied up in the clinch, kicks or punches all his opponents are man-handled... remember how he tossed Franklin around? and ace isn't exactly a little weakling. As far as the GSP fight happening?? I don't think so, Silva doesn't want to risk fighting a champion like GSP who would battle him to the end.

And as far as Liddell goes, that was by far the worst fight he has EVER fought, he looked like a slow motioned version of a pot-bellied old man, it was pathetic to see him suffering just trying to hit Rua.

i really hope they let gsp destory sivlia. and then never let silvia back to fight in televised fights.

Anderson was dissapointing, but I think it really goes both ways with these guys. It was a complete shit matchup. I've seen Leites fight before, but most people who heard the Anderson Silva was fighting Thales Leites, they said ".....who?" They need to get someone in there against him that will engage and not just sit down. And if you're gonna try to get it to the ground, at least make an attempt, don't just fall. Silva is still one of my favorite fighters, but I'll fully admit that fight sucked...it was like watching Sylvia vs Arlovski 2. There are a few things that I think should happen: 1) fight GSP 2) Give Okami and Maia their well deserving title shots 3) Anderson Silva moves up to Light Heavy Weight

Anderson Silva is far from a boring fighter and a poor sport. Like others have said, maybe he is sending a message to the matchmakers...get me some REAL competition.

Perhaps Anderson should give up the humble act, and play the heel.

Anderson Silva = Boring

His fights were only exciting because people didnt realize how good he was - now they know, and they stay away from what will make them lose in the first round - Silva's counterattack.

Silva needs to figure out something new, cuz ya cant blame the challengers for not running in wildly and getting knocked da fuck out a la Chris Leben, Rich Franklinx2, Nate Marquardt and James Irvin

I'm willing to be it's not Chucks last fight. Just like any other fighter, he wants to keep fighting and he feels like he still has what it takes to compete, so expect him back (at HW? against a wrestler or someone he could get a credible win with).

Last night, Anderson Silva showed up for a fight. Unfortunately, Thales Leites did not. He brought a one-dimensional game and Silva called him on it. If the UFC doesn't like that, they should stop throwing noobs in there with the Champ. Silva's best highlights are against top competition, of which, Cagepotato agrees, is(was) not Thales Leites. Same goes for Demian Maia.
G-S-P!
G-S-P!
G-S-P!

it took 1 min and 30 sec for the first strike to be thrown in the silva match, thats horrible

Anderson Silva showed an incredible lack of professionalism and revealed some pretty poor sportsmanship with the repeated front kicks to Thales' thigh, which had only one intention, and that was to blowout his knee and possibly end his career. While not against the rules, it is clearly not the way to win a fight if you are the supposed p4p best and champion.

Thats the kind of move that gets NFL players suspended for an entire season. Real classy for the supposed p4p best.

enough talk of him being p4p best....give Manny Paquiao 30 seconds with him and you would see what a true striker is capable of (even giving up 40lbs).

Silva, please please go to BOXING!! bye bye!!


counter punching is a great strategy when you face a fighter that is aggresive.... BUT IT'S ONLY ONE PART OF BOXING/FIGHTING.


his whole act as if it's the other guys fault they are not fighting is TOTAL BS!!! He acted like ass again, totally SHOWBOATING while not doing shit.... that is the WEAKEAST TYPE OF SHOWBOATING.


and his childish attempt's at destroying his opponents knee with bush leauge kicks and then doing nothing else, IT'S FUCKING PLAYED OUT!

Shogun is back....I guess. I mean nobody else has beaten the Iceman recently, right? That LHW division better watch out because Shogun is in town and ready to clean house. Oh wait...what's that (Imagine me putting my hand up to my ear)....Breaking News.... I have just been informed that Shogun still sucks and will likely lose to any of the top 5 LHW fighters in the UFC. The clean house reference was actually a literal reference, he is offering to clean your house for 8 dollars an hour. If you are interested call the number on your screen. 1-800-SHO-GUNS

Now don't get all upity on me here...just an observation:

I think GSP could take the Anderon Silva we saw last night. GSP's aggression and pace would likely conflict with Silva giving Silva the edge....but when necessary GSP's Wrestling, Jits (passing guard, overcoming), GNP and Speed would overcome Silva.

Honestly besides that Anderson guy fighting, last nights PPV was fucking great.

Shogun is back and he destroyed and retired Chuck. R.I.P LHW division.

Dana White could have avoided this by giving OKAMI his well deserved title shot.

You guys don't think that Silva was possibly sending a message not to waste his time with opponents that aren't a challenge?

chuck just had a competitive fight with wanderlei, that alone should say that he wasn't "done." He had just been caught by hard punches twice from really good fighters. I think his athletic ability is there, but his chin has been the first thing to go.

You can't take away from Shogun though, agreed that it's sad for the Iceman. However, Shogun looked good, confident and in better shape. He was a monster in Pride, he could be so entertaining in the UFC if he keeps it up.

anyone read the ufc article on liddells ko being rua's resurrection...i wouldnt call it a resurrection beating someone who is obviously done...if he beat shamrock would they have said the same thing?

Totally in agreement with The Painter. What is going on with Silva?
He's playing some kind of disappointed with his opponents game but it's not working.
We need a new match maker!
I'm calling it out!
Joel Silvas' time is up!

Wow what a waste of money. Chuck needs to be PR for the UFC. That guy is loved by most. The rest are just retards.

Fuck anderson silva. He is not p4p best fighter by a long shot. If you say he is, I say its some Tibetan monk that does all that meditating and whatnot, impervious to pain. So what if he never fights? If that monk ever did fight he would beat the shit outta Fedor and Silva at the same time...

P4P best dancer in mma maybe

Wow, Hal, you are so amazing, that was a great analysis of................. er, wait, you didn't say shit. Never mind, you are just another fucking idiot.



Some good fights, sad that Chuck has to go out like that, but he is going to be on teh UFC payroll as a consultant or talent scout forever, so it don't mean shit really. They will get his face on TV, because people know him.

reguarding chucks career.



"ITS ALL OVER!!!!!"

I can't believe what I saw last night. Silva would finish when given the opportunity and just seemed uninterested at times. I am all for respect in this sport but it sickened me to see Silva and Leites act like old buddies afterwards. Nobody paid to watch those assholes act like long lost cousins. What a disgrace to the sport.

Anderson Silva reminded me of Tim Silvia last night. Boring as hell to watch and just barely enough aggression/movement to hold on to the title. I know that he fought a smart fight and Thales failed to bring it, but it was really disappointing to see Silva perform like that again. He lost some respect and his place as a top p4p fighter.

Hats off to Rua for a good action fight. Thank God he was on the card as well as K Sos. Too bad 4 Chuck, but knew the day was coming.

FIRST BITCHES

Silva is boring.

Too bad for Chuck "The ice has melted" Liddell.