The boys from “MMA Live” break down UFC 94, which, of course, includes a thorough look at LubeGate (or as some of you would rather call it, LubriGate). Franklin McNeil is quick to dismiss it as no big deal, but Kenny Florian makes mention of a “select few” who do make use of greasing agents. It’s almost as if he has someone specific in mind. Someone he’s personally faced, who was “slippery,” and who had also trained with one Georges St. Pierre at various points. Hmmmm….
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Internet conspiracy theorists/video editors comb through GSP’s body of work, so to speak, in order to find evidence of past greasing. The Zapruder film it ain’t, but still worth a look.
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Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:04
WOAAH..¡¡
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:08
Just ask any of these guys if they want another crack at GSP...I'm guessing the asswhoopings that were doled out in the past would result in a resounding NO!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:10
Blow Job Penn specializes in just that... Rubber style Blow Jobs... By the way, for a rich bitch, BJ sure does have a trashy ass place for a gym. The inside looks semi-ok, but around the outside it looks like the barrio in San Antonio. Fucking Slum of a place. Even the beach is trashy as Fuck. Hilo is more Lo than it is Hi.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:15
this douche bag who this video saying the leg massages are leg "greasings"...would that put st.pierre at a disadvantage for his armbar victory at ufc 79 over hughes?!? haters!!!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:19
Why do you even post this shite CP? Evidently "One More Round" dropped Penn from their sponsorship....
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:24
LEAVE BJ ALONE!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:30
I didn't see anything conclusive other than that corner guy really enjoys rubbing GSP's legs and shoulders. And hey, if he's that way, whatever. GSP didn't seem to mind it either. Kind of makes me wonder if Gina Carino is going to need a good corner man when she starts fighting again. I'll use vaseline, sun tan lotion, jello... whatever she wants.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:30
After watching that video it makes it even more clear that what happened to GSP was a ritual they always do. Rubbing him down like that makes him more relaxed if he did have some shit on his hands its very unlikely that it would have changed the outcome of any fight he was in.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:31
People are desperate to find anything to prove that GSP cheated when he beat their favorite fighter.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:40
sry guys, the real reason why gsp felt greasy in his fight was left over residue from when he fought me. weeks b4 heading into the fight i was on a strict diet of olive oil and pasta, and during the fight it seeped thru my pores. And trust me, once olive oil gets on the skin in high dosages like that, it never fully comes off. Again i apologize... sincerely Matt Serra
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:44
You can also clearly see BJ's corner guy touching him on the back, chest, shoulder and back of the head with his gloved vaseline hand. I don't care if they drag this on every day for the rest of his career, I still think GSP is a model of professionalism, maturity, dedication and work ethic that all the fighters should hope to have. GSP and BJ Penn remind me of Michael Jordan and Dennis Rodman. Natural ability, work, heart, desire to win and professionalism versus natural talent and a penchant for dicking around getting by with as little work as possible, being a spectacle the whole time. They both got paid and won championships, but look how people remember them. Classy guy/best to ever play and good player/trouble maker/wedding dress/crotch kicker.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:45
I love how in the 3rd Hughes fight, GREG JACKSON tells the commission about the vaseline over GSP's eyebrow. Also, has anyone considered the following argument: GSP's past opponents now all accuse him of being slippery (well, only the times he beat them): Sherk, Hughes, Serra, BJ, Mayhem Miller. So, we've got the biggest cheater in the history of the sport, so adept at cheating up till now, that no one has said anything to the commission... until the latest fight, where for some reason, instead of cheating the way he got away with 5 times previously, his corner has a brain fart and does the cheating out in the open, while being filmed in front of the commission. An alternate argument: the fact that there in uniform consistency in GSP's greasiness is indicative of the fact he's just a greasy bastard. He doesn't have any hair on his body, and he sweats profusely. An alternate argument: he is a greasy bastard, but in this case the extra vaseline on his shoulders and back did prevent BJ from holding high guard. It is possible that GSP never used vaseline before, but was still slippery against Sherk, Hughes et al. AND that he was extra slippery in this fight against BJ because of the vaseline.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:45
The funniest thing is, the guy doing Kos face is the same one rubbing one of his shoulders. LOL.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:46
GSP is still a dominate force that will not be thwarted by these lame accusations. ....GSP's hop-skip-jab was a showing of superb athleticism that will never be tarnished by the restless souls who envy him.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:57
From the link: "This is the flaw with American fans. On the one hand, the American fan is incredibly intelligent and gets the game and understands what’s going on, but literally the other hand is, the other 50 percent of them are morons who have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about." — Frank Trigg on the superiority of Japanese MMA fans. I hate Frank Trigg...
Thu, 02/05/09 - 03:59
video is really retared and doesn't prove shieeeeeeeeeeeeet
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:08
I was perusing TUF Guy's betamax collection the other day, and I'm pretty sure I found evidence of GSP "greasing". Does anyone know how I can report this to the proper authorities?
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:26
Ha ha! My favorite part is when they point out the 'excessive water' being dumped on GSP's legs, while the commission ignores it. Brilliant detective work. PLUS, they noticed that someone brought Vaseline into the ring! Way to go, Sherlock. Everyone brings Vaseline in between rounds.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:26
Florian "I think Fedor's a little to sluggish" does the ufc own these guys or what.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:38
GSP just needs to win 2 more fights i believe..... and then all the ones sticking up for him right now will say "all you gsp nut huggers this and that...." ahh the cycles of stardom....
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:39
Rubbing his legs down with vasoline would only hurt GSP.. It would affect his control from the top and his leg kicks wouldnt be as effictive because they would slide off the other fighters skin..
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:44
Hillbilly... I'll rock, paper,scissors you for that job with Gina.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:47
GSP won't be able to grease down against Alves, and will thus lose.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 04:56
Clearly this video shows that Vaseline enables one to have a great increase in arm-bar ability. And water on the legs instantly rejuvenates one's strength and stamina.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 05:01
The key to GSP's success is KINDNESS! Note the KIND leg massage, and GENEROUS water sprinkling on the legs. KINDNESS IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 05:28
If anything that video showed me how much ARSE, GSP kicks! :) Thanks for that and no, its retarded to think there is anything going on here. GSP is just so ahead of the competition. Serra got a lucky win but other than that GSP is the man! GSP vs Alves UFC 100 FTMFW!!!!!!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 05:40
Soooo the video is to prove he DIDNT cheat right??? Or am I missing something on your video dude??? Comeon Potato, why bother furthering bolster this bullshit rumours...Penns a Biatch, Hughes is a Biatch and the rest are just sore they got beat into oblivion..WAR GSP!!!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 05:56
Just another few videos of GSP dominating people, he beat hughes STANDING in their second fight, I'm starting to wonder if GSP utilizes a vaseline force field that deflects punches and then knocks people the fuck out. Hughes is crying because he got emberassed. These scrubs are just jealous that GSP is a) a really nice and genuine guy and b) has shitkicked all of them and will continue to shitkick people, they're jealous its as simple as that. This whole thing juts goes to show you how selfish and self-absorbed BJ is, the only person benefiting getting both titles is BJ the only thing this MIGHT benefit is BJ. But, what he doesn't get is that this is all going to backfire in his face because theres no evidence of massive vaseline rubbing and he DIDN'T do it. Like Georges said he'll fight BJ again with rash guards and the outcome would be the same if not worse for penn and i believe that shit!! Oh and P.S. that LEAVE BJ ALONE comment was absolute gold i was laughing pretty hard
Thu, 02/05/09 - 05:58
I wonder how much vaseline is on Matt Hughes' ice pack?
Thu, 02/05/09 - 05:59
that video was more bullshit than I can handle. Let's not forget, matt hughes doesn't shave shit. so he doesn't know what it's like to have a clean shaven body. a clean shaven body is a lot smoother, plus gsp is a pretty boy so you know he lotions the fuck out of his skin to help with razor burn. Soft skin + plus lotion he uses on a daily basis, much like other dudes that shave their bodies + sweat = slippery ass dude. this is getting so rediculous. one time the corner man fucks up and all the sudden everyone wants to strip GSP of his hard work. GSP with fucking sun burn could fight all those fights over with the same results. I hear Brock Lesnar greased in the Randy Couture fight.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 06:25
Talk about looking for something that isn't there (kind of like BJ's conditioning).........Give it up already.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 07:06
Uhhh this is pretty damn suspicious. I love GSP and all but damn they rubbing him down hard every time with no gloves or towel. And it's always after they apply the vaseline, then he pours the water to make it more slippery.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 07:08
oh for fucks sake! did anyone notice in that video that he was wiped down with a towel in the BJ fight? Yet he still crushed BJ. what about when they are standing up and GSP is punching you and kicking you in your fucking face? He could be drenched in oil like Jason Statham in the Transporter and still beat you by punching you to the ground and have the ref stop it without getting into the clinch. What about the very beginning of the first round? You can't be greased up for that because you get checked before entering the octagon. GSP still beats your ass. For the love of God, let us never speak of this again.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 07:44
That video proves nothing...but it was nice to see a couple of those matches again.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 07:58
that video is really REALLY stretching whatever they can out of the old fights. there's not even a use for greasing a fighters legs, it would just make it harder to submit someone. you might as well but grease on the other fighters back!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 08:01
Meow meow
Thu, 02/05/09 - 08:38
BOTTOM LINE HE WAS BEING GREASED EVEN ON PREVIOUSE FIGHTS!!!! GSP CHEATER!!! THE ULTIMATE VASELINE FIGHTER!!!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 08:53
someone rly need to make a video like chris crocker crying but with bj penn it would be so fuckin funny...
Thu, 02/05/09 - 08:56
Fuck GSP. I got some vaseline too. I'm gonna lube up my right hand and jerk a load all over that bastards face!! I hope Thiago Alves breaks his foot off in GSP's ass. Fuck Georges "Lube" St Pierre. At least he can get sponsored by johnson & johson. They'd make a killing.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 09:37
mma fighters being like a bunch rape victims and alter boys, once one comes out a whole slew comes out, waltzing along with their sad puppy dog look. All three categories should hold their ankles and eat a shit pie while GSP fucks them all in the ass with No lube!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 09:48
The Matt Serra fight had the 2nd round from the GSP VS. PENN 2 fight, thats bullshit! Using that only deters from the argument.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 09:59
Just do a Rematch already!!!! Make GSP cut to 155 and and put bj's title up for grabs and lets see how Bj likes it!!!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 10:44
Am I the only one to whom it occurs that GSP's cornerman was simply working to increase the blood flow/massage/ concentrate his "Chi", as he was rubbing GSP's chest and back? That action doesn't seem illegal, and even if the cornerman's hand was covered in grease...well, I see no conclusive evidence of that in any footage so far. And to imagine that the cornerman's hand was greased up...yeah right, in front of millions of spectators on TV, live spectators watching, and all the officials watching, and wiping GSP down with towels... That really makes BJ Penn and his camp look like a bunch of morons trying to fabricate a story like that. They fail at "Poisoning the well". (Spreading a rumor that whether true or not [most often untrue], tarnishes someone's good reputation nonetheless). WAR GSP!
Thu, 02/05/09 - 10:49
I see why your name is Skidmark.
Thu, 02/05/09 - 11:34
Lol @ u guys.. Yes, we all see he is very skilled.. one of the best guys ive seen in octagon.. But if he used vaseline on purpose (other fighters as well) he need 2 take all consequences.. No matter how many fkin nuthuggers he has, in my eyes he will always be a cheater... ( just fyi : bj penn, serra and hughes are not my favourite at all, im not a broken-hearth hater :P )
Thu, 02/05/09 - 11:37
if anything this video was made to show how he doesnt cheat but it was good to see him beating the fuck out of all those guys. if he was greasing how come fitch hasnt said anything and how come mouth piece josh koschek hasnt said nothing because these accussations are false and are meant to hurt gsp's image cause bj penn in a rich little bitch that ran his mouth and then it got beat back into his face with gsp's fist
Fri, 02/06/09 - 12:04
anyone else seeing a pattern there? gets good rub down on shoulders and back vs people with ju jitsu... and legs vs people with wrestling. its claimed to be an an acupressure move... why ever switch it up if it works so well?
Fri, 02/06/09 - 03:01
that NIGGER PHIL NURSE...AND GSP I A WHORE... now i hate GSP, just another cheater...they pour water on his legs so them get slippery when wet..baby oil..the oil dries on the skinn but get slippery when wet...
Fri, 02/06/09 - 03:44
That is some weak fuckin bullshit.
Fri, 02/06/09 - 04:58
Martin - here's a newsflash for you; in response to your comment about the water being poured on his legs to make them more slippery, what would you say about the hundreds of fighters who pour (or whose trainers pour) water all over their heads (and backs) in between rounds? Would that not make them extra slippery and therefore cheaters as well? And btw, your 'nigger' comment ought to get you banned from posting here for life.
Fri, 02/06/09 - 06:20
This is almost comical. I am a huge GSP fan, as WELL as BJ also being one of my favorite fighters. BJ was one of my favorite until all this horeshit came out. I cant believe someone spent hours to make that video. Even worse that they think that it somehow shows GSP as a cheater. GSP simply dominates everyone in front of him. And now that those fighters were embarassed and looked amateur(at best) against GSP, a couple years later they say " oh yeah GSP was slippery" or whatever. Laughable. GSP is the best , plain and simple. GUARANTEED, if you VIEWED EVERY UFC fighter..........EVERY single one of them had a trainer ACCIDENTLY rub vaseline on the fighter's face, and then ACCIDENTLY touch their back or legs also. SIMPLY laughable. But, hey some need that kind of excuse for the humiliating beating they received.
Fri, 02/06/09 - 08:21
It's hilarious that the guy who made that video (and some who watch it) thinks it shows anything at all. The only thing remotely questionable is from the last BJ fight, which we already know can plausibly be explained as a mistake. Only one other time does it even show someone holding a jar of Vaseline, which anyone with half a brain knows is totally legal for rubbing on a fighter's face... then one other time it points out them pouring water on his legs, as if that's somehow illegal or any different than pouring water on your head. "Weak sauce" doesn't even begin to describe that video.
Fri, 02/06/09 - 08:32
So he greases his legs in order to win by leg locks? wtf?
Fri, 02/06/09 - 09:05
GSP is a fucking cheater and I'd like to suck him.
Fri, 02/06/09 - 04:56
That was the worst explanation for a set of ass-whoopings I've ever seen.
Tue, 02/10/09 - 02:56
Skidmark Draws : LOL lmfao, I dont think alves will be any different than Kos, Serra 2, Hughes 2 & 3, Fitch, BJ 1 & 2..... and now Alves. Yes Alves is a kick ass fighter, but he got KO'd by Fitch, mind u it was a couple yrs back, but I would really love to see Fitch VS Alves right now. Alves has a decent chance of winning just like everyone else, though I think GSP is way on top skill wise, intelligence wise, preparing, respecting, hard working, training his ass off, & getting his ass handed to him while training by "bigger" & "stronger" guys, but in fact they R jsut bigger than him. Jardine "GSP's is just as strong if not stronger than alot of LHW/205lbs" OUCH!!! A 170lbs fighter who can throw guys around who are 205lbs +........... I really think GSP can beat Anderson, especially if GSP gets Anderson on the ground, its game over...... Anderson is da man no doub, but find his fights & look at his losses...... every lost was on the ground, only GSP's bread & butter. ***NOTE: If GSP had so much vaseline like BJ & CREW/F@GS claim there was, then Y didnt BJ notice all that "fake vaseline" on his legs in between rounds?!?!? Answer, b/c there was no vaseline on GSPs back or shoulders, get the fuck out of here. Also he was wipped down after each round, & if there was any vaseline left on Nurse's hands/fingers there might of been enough to put on BJs lips, the lil F@T ASS Hawaiian disgrace/embaressment. Way 2 make Hawaii proud, especially after the way u disrespect ur oponents... more so GSP & for him to own you, to make u look like a white belt in BJJ & u coulndt even back up 1 word that came out of ur mouth, ur parents & especially ur daughter must b real proud of such a douche bag u R & to QUIT in front of millions of people hahaha so worth the $50.00 2 C u sit and cry on ur stool. If u also notice when the ref is raising GSP's arm & u look at BJ to the right, hes being held up by his corner LOL LMFAO!!
Tue, 02/10/09 - 03:08
It's clear that BJ lost cuz of the people in his corner. Listen to thier advice and then listen to the advice given in GSP's corner. BJ's corner is asking him "do you want this?" What the fuck do you think? "Just let your hand go BJ!" Yeah thanks boss. BJ needs people in his corner who are gonna push him to the limit as opposed to people who see him as a prodigy and thinks he knows it all. Train in an environment where ALL students are equal and have a coaching team who doesn't give a shit if you are tired or not in the mood. BJ reminds me of Vincent Chase.
Tue, 02/10/09 - 03:25
stay classy Martin...... slippery when wet.... no shit!....what are you a janitor? tool.
Fri, 02/13/09 - 07:48
for the first time time tonight, someone has something intelligent and insightfull to say about the situation. Gsp is a remarquable athlete and deserves to be where he is. I just hope he is going to teach a lesson of humility to Alves. Gsp is the man.
Fri, 02/13/09 - 07:50
I was writing about richard wad's comment!!
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