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Werdum Says Overeem Didn’t Beat Him, He Beat Himself


(Clash of styles = boring fight)

Fabricio Werdum has finally responded to Alistair Overeem‘s claims that he should be ashamed of his performance on Saturday night in their Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix quarterfinal match-up. According to Vai Cavalo, Overeem didn’t beat him; he lost the bout on his own by not listening to his corner and instead attempting time and time again to coax “The Demolition Man” into his guard.

“I don’t believe he won, I lost to myself. I could’ve won. The feeling I’m having now is worse than if he has smashed me up and if he was way better than me on the three rounds, winning with a large advantage,” he told TATAME today. “The guys is good, alright, so I’d have to keep my head down and train more. But it wasn’t like that and that made me choked. It was a [mediocre] bout, the fans expected much more, but he didn’t want to the ground at any cost.”

Werdum says that one thing he did succeed in doing was throwing Overeem off of his usually dominant striking game.

“You can see that end of the second and third round, when we went to the ground, on the half guard, he just laid there, he didn’t punch me at all, which is what he always does… He didn’t do it, he just held me. But many things happened,” he said. “But me, in particular, wasn’t ok. I trained a lot, I did wrestling trainings, muay thai trainings… I did everything I was supposed to do. But, the way I see it, I have to put much more effort for my next bout so I get stronger, really strong because it makes much difference.”

Pointing out that Overeem was able to use his strength advantage to dump him on his back and to break the clinch, Werdum says that the power disparity was the difference in the fight. He feels that if he had a few more seconds, he could have made The Reem tap out.

“And he used much strength just to hold me there. He followed his game plan and I made a mistake because I didn’t do what we have planned for me to do. When I pulled him to my guard, on the end of the third round, I almost applied a leglock, which was something we trained a lot: pulling him to my guard and grabbing his leg,” he explained.I” did it on the end of the fight, but it wasn’t the right moment. I had the chance to do that before, but it was too late for me to do anything, there were only 10 seconds left, and I couldn’t do anything more.”

A knee injury in the second round Fabricio says may have prompted him to try to pull guard more than planned, but he says that he was put off that Overeem didn’t want to engage with him on the ground.

“I don’t know if the guys really noticed me, but on the second round Overeem got my leg and tried to take me down. Since my leg was stuck on the floor, my left leg, my knee was dislocated. A MMA bout is not only about striking. When I call the guys to fight on the floor, nobody comes. When the guys want to fight me while standing up, I’d go, I’d stand up and try to launch how many shots I could,” Werdum pointed out. “I was doing fine striking, but I paid a high price for not listening to my coach, because that was not my game plan. To call him into my guard, I could do that like one, alright… But, the way I did, it made me tired. Calling him to my guard and standing… Keep doing that over and over again got me really tired.”

Although he didn’t win the bout, Werdum says the fact that he was never really in trouble against a dangerous striker like Overeem was a bit of a moral victory and that he would like a rubbermatch if and when Antonio Silva beats him. As far as who he is fighting next, he believes that it will be against either Andrei Arlovski or Brett Rogers on the same card as the SFHWGP semi-finals.

“Overeem said he’d knock me out and I didn’t see it coming at all. I wasn’t in danger fighting Overeem, he didn’t knock me down… I wasn’t hit by any strong shots, that could almost lead me to a knockout. He never came for me as he always does. There’s a long time since Overeem has been winning his bouts on the first round, on the first minute, right? It’s been a while… And against me he didn’t do it, he didn’t come for it, he didn’t work his ground and pound,” he explained. “I intend to fight on this next phase of the GP, not on the GP, but on the same event, against Arlovski or Brett Rogers, who have also lost. I guess it’d be a good thing for me to fight on this event because I felt I needed to fight more, I stayed without fighting for too long. I was a year off, and that’s a lot of time. I lost the rhythm… I was doing good on the training, but fighting is different. On the day of the bout it’s different.”

“In my opinion, Big Foot will defeat Overeem,. And I guess it’ll be striking. If Big Foot goes like he went went he was with Arlovski, he’ll defeat Overeem. I’d fight on the same event that they would, I don’t know against who, but in case Overeem loses, on the next event we could have a rematch worth the belt, because after this bout we’re even,” he said. “I won one, and he won the other, so we have to do this third match and check it all out. It’s 1×1, so we have to do this bout, because it’s not convincing anyone: not even for him because I made the first move all times, and neither for me because I lost it. ”

 

 

 

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iadyn- June 25, 2011 at 10:59 am
@jazzninja, flopping actually is very usual in bjj, and it is very effective due to the qi that the fighters are wearing. Its easy to just grab it and flop down dragging the opponent with you. In bjj going like that on the ground dont lose you any points and instead there you are thn able to start working for points. But true, is your job to take your opponent down, not their responsibility to follow you into your gameplan
LOKI- June 23, 2011 at 7:37 am
@Fatty McDickbutts & Redping-I am super cereal!
1.Alistair almost never throws kicks.
2.Werdum went to the ground constantly not because of the force of the strikes he absorbed but because they gave him the opportunity to play ground or at least attempt to.
3.If Werdum was really hurt Overeem would have gone for a GnP finish, its hard to throw up triangles if you on Brock street. 4.Werdums face was spotless while Overeems was cut and even swoll so according to the Unified Rules of Stockton, Werdum won the striking battle.
5. if either one of them was in cardio shape there could easily been a finish from strikes.
mothercruncher- June 23, 2011 at 2:07 am
Ya, he lost the fight because he wanted to fight on the ground AND COULDN'T GET THE FIGHT THERE.

It's not the other guys duty to fight to your gameplan but yours to force it on him you fucking idiot!
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fatbellyfrank- June 23, 2011 at 12:13 am
After getting home from work and having a good read, the following seems apparent: Werdum, your a fucken idiot if you think anyone will swallow explanations and excuses for your fucken shitty performance on Sunday, it was a shit game plan, executed poorly by you, as many posters have already said, you want the fight on the ground, use your skillset and get it down there, flopping on yer ass and then imitating Tito's girlfriend is fucken bullshit. You lost a huge amount of respect due to your shitty tactics, which was basically just running away from Reem by using your butt cheeks instead of your feet. Dana WILL NOT put up with this shit from you, your not a big enough drawcard. To sum up, learn some takedowns or fuck off, you were fucken hopeless in Sundays fight and an embaressment to the MMA world.
Jazzninja- June 22, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Several points I would like to clear up that people seem to be mysteriously ignoring or unaware of.

1) Overeem's striking game is very defensive. He puts up his hands and defends putting out the odd punch now and then until he weathers the storm and senses and opening at which point he unleashes a flurry of blows including hooks short ranged uppercuts and knees. He bides his time and then unleashes hell when he feels the moment. That is key to understanding why Werdum appeared more active in the striking. Overeem is not a tit-for-tat striker. Reem was doing his trademark cover up, weather the storm and waiting for the counter. Werdum appeared to be having success only because he ineffectively engaged in the first part striking Overeem's defences; however when Reem took his openings and attempted to do his trademark flurry Werdum flopped killing any potential Reem had to do any damage. Maybe this was a strategy akin to the Fedor fight.

2) Werdum attempted to take Overeem down but was utterly unable to do so leading him to try his flop strategy repeatedly. It should have been obvious after some time that this was not going to work as Overeem (rightly) refused to just sit into Werdum's guard, effectively, taking himself down.

3) It is the fighters responsibility to take the other to the ground even in wrestling and BJJ tournaments. Get that? Even in pure grappling tournaments, if you want the fight on the ground you have to take the other guy down somehow. Flopping wouldn't even work in a BJJ match for pete's sake. It's a non-strategy. It's stalling and it should be a foul to repeatedly do that (something akin to timidity). Overeem was absolutely justified in refusing to do what Werdum was unable to do and take himself down.

On a side note Werdum's shots did not look powerful they just looked like a flurry to score points and antagonize Overeem into taking the bait end following Werdum to the ground. Its a decent enough trick but shouldn't be confused with in anyway threatening on the feet. Learn some takedowns Werdum or all your vaunted bjj is worth nothing. Just like you realised you had nothing for Overeem on the night and had to stall to prevent from being knocked out.
Redping- June 22, 2011 at 8:50 pm
yeah Loki if your vision told you that werdum was winning the striking, you need to do some revision on how fighting works
Fatty McDickbutts- June 22, 2011 at 6:21 pm
@LOKI: Werdum definitely wasn't gonna win trying to keep the fight standing, you fuckin' serious, bro? Reem didn't throw any kicks, hardly threw any knees: every time a punch landed halfway flush Werdum flopped on his back to avoid KTFO.

Basically, Alistair Overeem is a god among men, and you're wrong in every way imaginable.
fatbellyfrank- June 22, 2011 at 5:17 pm
^ It wasn't just the standing up that tired him out, the falling down and winking at Reem took a fair bit out of him as well
Eyes red as Fedor- June 22, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Did Werdum spend his entire training camp on the toilet taking shits with the front door open so the pizza guy could walk right in. How the hell do you get tired from standing up?
Shaky- June 22, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Yeah Werdum you oblige your opponenets by standing with them but they won't return the favour and spend time with you on the ground. Or maybe fights start standing and you don't know how to get it to the ground......
intercept440- June 22, 2011 at 4:05 pm
there is only one fighter who could beat himself, and that would be tito ortiz's reflection in the mirror. i mean think about it...i think when he started to go on a losing streak was the exact second he realized for himself..." DAYYYUUUUMMM i got a big fucking Head!!!".. i mean how much of a defeat could you stand looking in the mirror everyday at that fucking thing, and be physically and mentally crushed by the size of your own cranium....that why he had all those fucking back and neck probelms, the wieght of his ginormous fucking cranium just wore his spine out...


Poor bastard
JPfighter-DAMMA- June 22, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Earth to Werdum...if you want to win a fight on the ground, perhaps you should learn a technique called "takedowns". Maybe you skipped over that class during your years of BJJ training. The real loser on Saturday night was the fans. I have seen better fights in the courtyard of a retirement home.
ccman- June 22, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Sorry but i take exception to the caption. never ever has a woman been made better by adding sound.
Horsepower- June 22, 2011 at 3:02 pm
I dont think id care to watch a Overeem vs Werdum 3, theres too many other exciting fights that could place rather than these two again. I could even see 2 rounds going like they did, but they shouldve gone balls to the wall for the third.
monkyspunk- June 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm
noizy, that was funny man, I actually laughed on that one.
D-man420- June 22, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I am very confused with this interview. I really hope this is not Fabricio but if it is i lost a lot of respect for this guy. LOL 1x1 one for him at a lot lower weight but its all the same right.
monkyspunk- June 22, 2011 at 2:24 pm
either way, he lost.
Komodo- June 22, 2011 at 2:18 pm
The beating one's self jokes should be legendary.
Get Off Me- June 22, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Werdum beat himself... causing a fighter to beat himself has to be some sort of accomplishment, so props to Overeem.
Someone send Fabricio the memo about MMA judges not caring about Jits as well.
Fried Taco- June 22, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mental note: falling down and getting back up is tiring.
jimbonics- June 22, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Dear Fabricio,
You fought like a fag.
 
Sincerely,
The Internet
noizy- June 22, 2011 at 2:00 pm
"I could’ve won". Yea, a BJJ tournament perhaps, you butt scooter.
LOKI- June 22, 2011 at 1:52 pm
....fuckin' edit
LOKI- June 22, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I agree. You shoulda stayed on the feet as you were winning the exchanges with surprising aplomb. Maybe if you had skipped second breakfast or 11'zeez during training your wind wouldnt have left ran outa wind...either that or learn to wrestle, either one.
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