@Texican

I love the sport of MMA more then you can possibly begin to understand. However I do not like when a show declares themselves legit and is then run like a three legged dog in a circus act. This is not how things should be there should be a level of professionalism at all times. This is something Strikeforce has not shown me. Thus I cannot hug its nutts. Now I dont like EVERYTHING THE UFC DOES however they follow a decorum of professionalism. Look at the Fiscal differences between the companies and then perhaps you'll get what I mean. everythings public for people to see so just do some research.

@Get off me

I don't disagree at all The Diaz Noons fight was enjoyable for me all around. Well put rarely do I agree with someone at times I can be a troll but well put.

@FBF - Good to hear that you're ok. If the waters get too close to FBFburg just holler and I'll take my stash of Carlsberg and whiskey over to drano's and we will head out to the rescue.

As far as the drama, nyea. GuusBuster sometimes changes your name. It what he do,it who he be. So far it has resulted in Snady Vag and Dick Misanthropenis, so I'm not about to try to shut off the creative juices. I may not always agree with the dude, but he keeps it interesting.

Seriously though, there is so much UFC/Strikeforce hate going on, break up cagepotato into two separate websites. one for the UFC nutthuggers who bash Strikeforce, and a site for Strikeforce nutthuggers who bash the UFC. Oh wait, but then you would need a third site for the few who actually like any and all MMA. But it would stop all the nonsense posts of ,"Fuck UFC" and, "Fuck Strikeforce"

Wow, someone got sand in their vagina. OMG, i see what ur doing, Snady Vag, sand in ur VAGINA. Ha. Too funny.

Wow, someone got sand in their vagina.

@Karma
I am no stranger to the trials and tribulations a fighter endures pertaining to fighting injured, weight cutting etc...
If you are fine with seeing JDS sit around for another year(it's a torn rotator cuff injury to Velasquez) that's fine, I am not.
If you were O.K. with an elite fighter like Rashad sitting around for the past year because he could, that's fine, I am not.
If you are O.K. with a champion being iced as the number 2? contender now for another 6-8 months(if Edgars nose is not broken and if there are no injuries in the rematch) that's fine, I am not.
Dana has already stated that he needs to figure out what he will do with Pettis, but until he makes an announcement(which I think should be to move sholarus over to fight Roller and put Pettis in against Jim Miller for the number 1 contender) Pettis is on the shelf as a champion who is not injured.
I simply used these examples to show that even the UFC breaks "promises" at the post fight presser to Edgar v. Maynard it was Pettis, then before you know it, Maynard...I agree Maynard deserves another look and let them fight for the 3rd time, but seriously I would be pissed if Pettis has to sit around, if your cool with that, again it's fine, I am not.
Injuries are inevitably part of this sport, but non injured fighters should not be shelved as a result, I said it before, if you are championship material you will become champion, if you have to fight again and lose, well maybe your not all that great, butat least the fans get to see you fight, you make money and you keep those skills sharp(training to fight vs. fighting).

I completely agree with your second para and I have stated above that the production and broadcast team in SF is a complete joke and needs reform, but the criticisms of SF generally go towards Coker and the booking of matches, which I find unfounded.
I loved the KO card as much as you, but there were plenty of fights before that I enjoyed even more over the past year, I can go match for match with you good vs. bad for UFC vs. Strikeforce over the past year.

It's not about Strikeforce being the best and everyone who hates is crazy, it's just about calling a spade a spade, SF for fights(not presentation or commentary) is very good imo.

Look, MRuss. You do your thing, man. You write an article --> we shit on it --> you shit on us --> we shit on you --> you write another article. That's how it works for me. Don't change it now, it's the structure i cling to.

Gotta say, kids, it's funny that this comment section has about as much estrogen as a cycle class at Curves and there are those of us who are "leaving the site" because somebody hurt our softies. I'll say it again, I freakin' love the potato. I'm not even drunk, and I can say it. I lov... like you guys, at least a little bit.

Wow you guys are really pissed about this article ah? I think this site is really good, but it's obviously for a spoof type format to it. MiddleEasy and CageChatter are great too for the same type of format.

@Get off me

How can you even say they're shelving pettis? Nobody lost that match between Edgar and Maynard thus Maynard did not lose his Number 1# contendership. Thus he remains the first man in place to receive the next shot at Frankie. Logic is something you were using for the majority of your post until you said that also how is it the companies fault when Talent get injured? That happens when training in combat sports I can't tell you how often I train injured or impaired to some extent. JDS and Evans are both fine examples of guys who happen to be in those situations BOTH champions were injured, should they fight injured? the simple answer is No.

How can you even play off that we shouldn't look down on Strikeforce? You are seriously fucking kidding right? Did you forget the part were the three announcers couldn't recall what the established rules for MMA were? How does someone who works in MMA in one of the "Supposed" Large companies forget that shit? Two of the three announcers are ex fighters/trainers. Seriously Strikeforce hasn't proven shit yet and thus should be treated as such. I know you all loved that last event where they had four knockouts back to back, but one decent card doesn't make up for a couple years of shit. Sorry fuck Strikeforce.

Mruss for GOP 2012.

@mydonkeypunch
Blatant mismatches are what gave Lesnar his belt in the first place, Big Nog v. Lesnar is another prime example.
At the time Rogers v. Fedor went down, Rogers was about as legit a HW there was willing to fight Fedor in SF, he finished Arlovski with authority and was very much like a Shane Carwin going into his fight with Lesnar(keep in mind Carwin had beat Gonzaga...a name on the can crusher list).
It's hard to find legit HW's across the UFC and SF that can actually fight these days, proof positive from the list above where about 4 of the guys are in limbo to say the least.

My plea is simply to wait for another so called "fuck up" from SF before everyone starts going on with the whole SF sucks, they never deliver, they will be bankrupt this year chatter that has been going on for quite sometime now....to me at least it's becoming less and less warranted with every card that SF puts on.
For programming, I think that every promoters wish is to have programming available, but Coker is not Nick Diaz or Jason Miller, they fucked up the CBS broadcast which undoubtably hurt SF as a result, but it's not as if Coker pulled scheduled cards or cancelled fights on people.

Bottomline, I can find plenty of examples where the UFC has gone back on their word or declared matches only to turn around and changed them or worse even shelve top contenders for months at a time not because of contracts or injuries to the fighter themself i.e. JDS, Rashad and now Pettis.

My constrcutive criticism is write good articles above that get us thinking, but leave out the unecessary putting SF down in the process, especially when your talking HW's.

P.S.
Stating Lesnar v. Nog is not a mismatch is simply wrong.
I could also argue that Schaub v. Mir is a mismatch too... look what Nelson did to Schaub, look at what Mir did to Kongo, I could see that happening from a mile away if they fought.

Last??

Come on M Russ that is lame dude. How many dicks you choke on this morning???

@Get Off Me

I'm not against Strikeforce at all. I think the tournament is a great idea. And I think it's awesome that we'll be able to see the fights in the states. As far as promising super fights and not delivering, I was referring to Overeem fighting a legit heavyweight. I'm happy that they are actually doing such now but it took quite a while. The same goes for Fedor. With the exception of Fedor v. Werdum, Fedor wasn't fighting legit heavyweights either. It's very hard to consider Rogers "legit" by the way.

As far as the negativity... I think a lot of people probably get irritated with the blatent mismatches (they do lead to highlight reel KO's sometimes though), amount of time between fights for fighters (which Coker stated more programming this year), and not scheduling fights between the top competition within their organization (tournament is solving that). I could be wrong but that's how I think the perception is.

I would like to see Dos Santos fight someone instead of staying on the shelf that long too.

I could be wrong with a lot but meh, that's just my two cents.

BG still as good/funny as ever. CP still a good read. 1 of the new writers is just not good enough, sorry.

p.s. Bullying poster - ffs......

p.p.s. middleasy = awesome

Strikeforce's tourney looks much more appealing. Schaub is garbage, I don't get why people don't see this. Much rather have Struve, Barry or Cro Cop in there.

I did, but I figured telling them made it far less entertaining.

 You guys do know that you can just go change your name back, right? 

How about a new year's resolution for CP.....No shitting on Strikeforce until they fuck up again. I know in the past there have been some "promises"(care to elaborate) on superbouts that never happened(examples please), but the fact that we can see Fedor, Overeem etc... fight on this side of the pond must mean SF has delivered something, or does this not count for anything?

Much like predicting a fight will be boring before it happens, it's kinda equally ignorant to say a whole tourney will be fucked before it starts.

The article is a nice contrast and does offer a fun look at what the UFC could do with it's HW division, just remember that Cain and JDS are both gone with a torn rotator cuff, 8 months to recover and then Cain will be able to begin his training camp....I say both are out because JDS will not fight anyone else but Cain as he is the number one contender and like Rashad can sit back and wait.

I'd like some examples of where SF earned all this negativity?
I have said since day one that the broadcast team and overall production sucks, but as far as fights go, they have never left me wondering why I tuned in.

^The Burrito always wins.

"Since you're affiliated with break media I didn't expect much more."

Then why are you so butthurt, Dazed? Dude, you got some valid arguments so why be pissed off about it? It is a drama website, but that's why it's fun. It's drama that is somewhat linked to MMA. If you really didn't expect much from CP because of their Break affiliation, why be so bent about the way you think they handle things? And honestly, man, whose lives don't suck in some way? If yours doesn't, I'm happy for you. If your whole post had been a fecicious, sarcastic remark, it would have been funny as shit.

Man, I don't know wtf happened around here yesterday, but it looks like some sort of fuckin shitstorm, with this little dose of love for Fatbelly. This place is crazy as hell but I seriously didn't see what the problem with the article was........seriously.

@EFB FTW again...

I'm late to the party, but comment editing and name changing are lame. Bans should only be done if you're sober enough to remember them later ;)

MRuss can be cool, but he's sensitive guys. It's dry in Canada so his ass gets chapped pretty easy. Be warned.

I love Oprah. I think she's the hottest woman on the planet and I would drag myself through a mile of shit just to lick her beautiful Nubian toes.


**EDIT***

Oh now you've gone too far, Russell!!!

I think once Sandy Vag jumps up and down a few times, he might get his screen name back haha.

I may be a newb to posting but I've been "lurking" for a bit now. It seems with each new article that is written, more and more people are posting to state their utter discontent with the article rather than give an appropriate rebuttle. How can you not expect a moderator not to mess with you if you're attacking his authors or site in general from a non-constructive point of view? I never understood why people will read an article, not agree with it, and then post a comment about how much this site sucks and decide to leave (or threaten to). Why go through all that effort? Solution... just leave. With this article, people need to realize that the author used "if". It was a hypothetical situation to get your minds going. Sure, the author may be UFC biased but that's probably in part to all the broken promises of "super fights" from Strikeforce. It's hard not to have a negative view point. Personally, I think the Strikeforce tournament looks good on paper. However, I think they will have more than one person replaced by an alternate to finish the tournament due to injuries, contract disputes, etc. It would be interesting to see what Daniel Cormier would be able to do though...

People just need to quit being so emotional. Alright, I'm done whining about people whining haha.

CP... I enjoy reading your articles and got quite a good chuckle out of the name change.

Peoples posts being deleted, people referring to themselves and a couple other "friends" as OG"s while cutting down others for being a couple weeks newer than them, crapping on other peoples opinions and being okay with the MOD changing names and editing posts. Oh thats cool... I may be drunk... all in all, fuck this website and the posting on it. It's like a damn drama website. A bunch of bias opinions, loser dedicated fans and slow ass updating. Honestly I come here for the laughs but they've been depleting like Shane Carwins air supply (HA!), I get all my up to date news from MMAJunkie and BloodyElbow. I used to think this site was legit but man do things "change". Have fun losers, you've lost another MMA fan who enjoys debating about topics, ya know?... not just agreeing with eachother and giving eachother loser internet high fives because your real lives fuckin suck.

There's some cool peeps here with actual opinions and I thank you guys for that, but to tell the truth I'm sure you all check out the other sites like I do. Thanks for keeping me updated while I didn't find the other larger, faster, better and more unbiased sites Cagepotato. Since you're affiliated with break media I didn't expect much more.

End Session.

The major difference..if UFC decided to do this( I can't see nay reason why they would...NONE) they could actually get their fighters to follow through and compete,Strikeforce have about as much chance as a cake with Nelson

I tell you what, Strikeforce could just have a ‘tournament’ with just Overeem vs Fedor and it would still be better than anything the UFC could come up with, because Overeem and Fedor are the 2 most decorated heavyweights in the world. You have Fedor with his incredible legacy as the GOAT and Overeem as the most relevant HW at the moment.

Not only this but Barnett, Big Foot, Werdum, Arlovski, Rogers and Kharitonov are all legitimate top HW’s and would all do well in the UFC HW division no questions about it.

Mir? Schaub? Nelson? Nog? Come on man ffs. Mir is DONE, Nog is DONE, Schaub is green, Nelson is a gatekeeper at best (who KO’d Schaub)… and Lesnar? He still has a load to prove I’m afraid. Does he even really want to fight anymore!?

Even IF you some how rate the ‘2nd tier’ UFC guys over the SF guys, what would be more exciting? Watching Nog and Mir put on an exciting fight like they did after TUF? Or like Mir/Cro Cop? Or maybe watching Schaub vs Nelson… the highly anticipated TUF contestant’s rematch.

Whatever way you look at it, from whichever angle you wish, however you want to dress it, Strikeforce has the most exciting heavyweight division and trying to discredit Strikeforce for this HW GP is surely only something Dana White would do. Not a neutral, unbiased MMA journo.

We all know that M-1 are cunts. There’s nothing you, I or Strikeforce can do about that. However, to potentially get Fedor to fight 3 times this year. That’s some fucking feat I’m telling you.

you guys are making my mangina hurt

What Karma said.

Whoa Whoa Whoa! FBF! What about me!? HOLLA ATCHA BOI! FUCK ME! Hey side note if it turns apocalyptic over there let me know I'll bring some Flack Jackets and Ammo we can go all Book of Eli on the Locals there. Damn I am down right fucking hurt.. *SOB*

Oh well on a brighter note IMDB has this Hilarious Bio on our Boy Scott Coker. All I gotta say is "Surf Ninja's". Pretty informative I guess he's a pro at the spinning back kick since he has a 5th Degree Black belt in Taekwondo. Just wicked entertaining to me.

For our new users on Cagepotato, First and Foremost WELCOME! Things in our little Nation are run a bit differently then well anywhere else! It's pretty amazing and outright awesome on every level of cognitive thought I would know this website keeps me up for hours on end. Just keeps the brain waves going. No seriously though think of yourself as a member of a cast system and right now your on the bottom so to reiterate what Drano said Learn to keep your mouth shut if all your going to do is bash our community. We never appreciate those kinds of posts, even if MRuss entertains us with your pain and suffering.

Oh well I love the Potato Nation, Particularly the Potato Douches. Being one of them I have to have all the love in the world for them. Sleep well Potato Nation you are in my everlasting brainwaves. God this post is fucking random as shit.

Oh yeah, BONZAI POTATO NATION!

Wow, my post got deleted, I guess.

How can someone think Dos Santos is better than Overeem? They are both strikers and one of them is possibly the best in the world at it.

@ FBF - glad to hear you're not floating away, man. It looks fucking crazy down there! It didn't seem like it was that long ago that it was those huge fires, and now the floods.

It sounds like you're pretty well stocked up, but you'd think CP would hook you up with some emergency flood supplies, like, oh, I don't know... some UFC 127 tickets. I mean, haven't you suffered enough with these natural disasters? Plus, who else will be our correspondent down there? I suppose Drano, so send him some tix, too.

For those who recall it, Mr Misanthrophy went through a period where MRuss was changing his user name almost every half hour, and we all thought that was farken funny, hell I even tried to hit on him when Mruss gave him a chicks handle!
Lighten up dudes, we should be used to the MRuss style by now, if you dont like it theres the door.
On another note, Viva, Rex, Drano, GB, Almost, RWR you guys fucken rock, its damm fine human beings like you guys that keep me coming back here time after time
Potato Nation rulez OK

And maybe a top 10 ring girls/random hot sluts article should give us all some true common ground to get the funny shit and laffs flowin again

I dont know who writes these fucking articles but I think the problem here is that you guys have such a dedicated following these guys are getting impatient for you to post another. Once you do that this homo thread will be over.

Oh and I think SF sucks as well. Coker was a fucking stunt double in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie. No shit. That said, I guess thats pretty cool.

I would like to see more Bellator coverage though. That is a more credible organization than SF.

and now in conclusion:
FBF glad to see my bro in OZ is doing good, should things get worse you know I will be there for you.....I have a fucking truck loaded up right now in case you run outta beer my brother.
Rex don't be hard on yourself, I think your idea was fucking great.
All you real Potato nation guys: come on, fuck, give up the attitude this time on MRuss, He didn't do this to US, he did this to a new douche much like redengine and other fucktards who only come here to fuck up our home. I don't see him fucking with REAL posters on this site even though we give him much worse hell that this.
I cannot be the voice of reason for Mruss......the damn world will explode!!!!
lastly.....
New people watch and learn from a real MMA website, WE the users, are the best users on any site, we are fucking a billion times smarter, funnier, and have more freedoms to be assholes to each other or even the staff than any other site. YOU and your bullshit sites you hype are just like strikeFARCE, second fucking rate garbage that couldn't hold OUR jocks. You don't like it here, great, go play hide and go FUCK yourself in the street.

much love to REAL potato nation men and women....even the ones who are douchebags, at least you are certified potato-douches.

"Contrary to popular opinion, the calibre of the UFC's HW GP would be just as good, if not better than Strikeforce's. The only noticeable difference is that there really wouldn't be any mismatches in Zuffa's heavyweightpalooza."

Effin Zuffa-potato

I'm liking strikeforce more everyday. It's what makes us a democracy. We can't have just one super power promotion, M-1 might take over management(by threat of nuke of course).

I am always first to admit I think Mruss is a useless turd, BUT I gotta say this new doucheface ankle locking sandy vag guy is just bringing it on himself.
Hey new douche let me clue you in on some things that are VERY important.
#1 IF your first thru 20th message on here is to try and shit on this site you deserve everything that happens to you.
#2 your new, learn your place, you haven't earned the right to say what this site is or isn't.
#3 Your a strikeforce fan, thus that disqualifys you immediately.
#4 know when to shut the fuck up, it will come in handy in the near future when you graduate from middle school.

And to think, i encouraged him to change peoples' names when i said i thought it was hilarious.  Sorry, everybody.On another note, glad to hear fatbelly is provisioned and safe.   

"UFC's HW GP would be just as good, if not better than Strikeforce's"

LOL..Strikeforce has way better GP participants than UFC's

@MMA

I don't know that fact to be true at all son.

Did Someone say Cagepotato OG? If you don't like our Articles and you don't like how we do things theres an [x] up in the right hand corner of your screen. Feel free to click it. Seriously though what point of this article pissed you off? Was it the valid point part or was it the part were you have your hands still clamped around Fedor's Balls. The Grand Prix that strikeforce is hosting would have been solid a couple years back now it's just a toss up if I wanna watch that or a "Murder She Wrote" marathon. Not a single one of us gives a shit what site you guys goto as long as it isn't here we have enough whiny bitch's one less wont make a bit of difference to any of us. So Sandy Vag I bid you good day! As for Mruss I think that shits fucking hilarious it's not like he banned dude from posting or deleted his login name. He simply gave it that spice it was missing. I seem to remember a certain Fire Engine that had all four wheels slashed and sent packing from our wonderful community. VIVA LA POTATO NATION!

I hope to one day see a UFC heavyweight tourney if for no other reason than to watch the Buffer break out a 720 spin while introducing the tourney final.

DON'T THINK HE CAN'T DO IT !!!!!

Its also a known fact that anyone who calls someone else son on the internet is a presumptuous douche bag....

skeletor wow bro didnt know you tested me so I guess I couldnt have turtled up...u talk a big game tho and thats what scares me is your talk... you know because your a cp origional.. and that means what? That you have been on the site for a few more weeks than me who cares... damn cant a fella even try to be funny with out douche bags getting the feelings hurt? My advice dont take this seriously it only makes you seem pathetic.

Mike Russel probably thought we were all sitting around thinking about what a sandy vag ankle lock was being and that he would amuse us by changing the name.

What it was though, was an abuse of his power as a moderator to stop someone who was making (although very rude) on-topic remarks. Our willingness to engage in this community is founded on the principle that our membership is protected and the opinions we share will be read by our peers.

Obviously our accounts or our posts can be deleted at any time for no reason, but we blissfully ignore that fact because we can, because those things don't seem to happen. Until now.

So yeah, not cool bro.

You know, with this post-changing tomfoolery going on, maybe I was better off as a lurker..

@MMAINMYBLOOD
Calling me out for real? I believe last time I tested you you turtled up faster than Brock Lesnar on a breezy day. Don't mess with a CP original son or you will be praying MRuss changes your screen name.

Secondly.... MRuss, changing screen names for real? Come on man you're better then that, and we will all know you're a little bitch if this comment ends up coming from Beastman!

@FBF,
Best of luck brotha!

@ Ghost, RWR, yeah little bit damp over here at the moment, mostly couple of hundred miles South of us tho, and pretty fucked for the people in the middle of it, whole towns completely flooded and had to be evacuated, its gonna be heartbreaking for the poor cunts come clean up time, everything is pretty much fucked. Main issue for us is getting goods trucked in with all the roads closed tho. I'v stockpiled the beer fridge and its full so should be all good.
Thanks for concern dudes, mucho appreciated

@RSparrow,
Wait, so she really did leave? Damn my attention span sucks.

of latter day saints..

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

It's called journalism. The author isn't being biased because of his personal preference; it's because Strikeforce has failed us in the past and doesn't seem to be as credible as the UFC (yet).

Everyone has started this new year with a bunch of bitching and whining. Come on guys...

Take the articles for what they're worth, you aren't going to enjoy every single one of them. To threaten to take off to another site and all this bullshit... fine. You sound like my ex girlfriend.

With the exception of Almost North and a couple other OG's, we probably dont give a shit anyways.

Throw a fucking caption contest out there tomorrow, let's all get back on track. Jesus Christ...

Jean Claude Van Damme's career has convinced me that tournament style fighting is always a good idea

Holy shit Rwilson I was also just reading aboot that flood and also thought "Oh shit I hope FBF is good". I think he is farther North, but still, FBF I hope you all good dude.

I would be equally excited for the SF tourney as the UFC, but I would most likely end up paying for the UFC one and not the SF one because the UFC could actually build a compelling card around the HW fights. A HW division does not a promotion make.

@ankle lock
@sandyvag

Your 100% correct. The strikeforce tourney is perfectly seeded which you can refer to the original story where I commented and said the same exact thing. It's great because there are 3 title fights! With legit contenders. Overeem gets to rematch werdum. Fedor fights their number 4 contender which is what should happen. It also has potential to have fedor fight werdum rematch or the long overdue reem/fedor fight.
If any of the right bracket fighters get a title match they would still have to fight those same fights anyways. This is great for the sport and I think it will happen. Strikeforce has great fighters. Obviously they have better heavyweights. Obviously! How can you even compare the veterans in prime that strike force has to the new young mostly untested ufc heavyweights.

How many fights do we really care to see in the UFC heavyweights? Santos vs Velasquez that's it.
How many do we NEED to see in strikeforce? Fedor/Werdum Fedor/Overeem Fedor/Barnett Overeem/Werdum Overeem/khnaritonov.

Strikeforce heavyweights > ufc heavyweights

More of the Strikeforce smear campaign, I see.

Changing screen names is weak ..... just call him a sandy vag

that said

CP uber alles

On a totally unrelated note - Fat Belly Frank, whenever your timezone allows you to come on CP - what is going on in your country?! I just saw videos of that flood, and it looks fucking insane!!!

Try to stay dry FBF. Drunk and dry, if possible.

The tournament would be sweet and all but Lesnar would end up fighting Velasquez again in the final fight and we all know how that's going down - With Lesnar raping Velasquez Oz-style bitches.

Also, CP is the best MMA site out there. And if you dont believe it you are kind of a terrorist.

Truthfully, I usually can't stand SF. Sure there are some good fights, but I don't like much about their business. I think there is no way they actually make this HW tourney happen, and even if they do pull it off, well... it still took three years of them touting how great their HW class is for them to actually let us see it. That is pretty pathetic.

I also generally like what Dana White has done for the sport, and think that he deserves to hoarde as much money as he wants while paying fighters whatever he deems is appropriate, since it is his business to succeed or fail at. Nuthugger? Maybe.

Still, the tone of this article was pretty strange. It wasn't just "All this talk of a SF tourney has me wondering what one in the UFC would look like." That would have been fine. It was more, "See, the UFC is still much better than anything they can do. Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nah." I agree in principle, but just a little strange in tone. Oh well. I'm not about to go to MiddleEasy any more than when you link to them on Fridays. You like some articles, you don't like others.

But changing screen names or posts is gay. And I mean 'homosexual' gay. Nick Ring gay.

I didn't understand Schaub being in there even if it was a pull of a hat hypothetical situation showcasing the arguable dominance of UFC's HW roster.

Changing names and comments is pretty weak, MR. I'd let it rain R Kelly style on you, if i didn't think you'd pull a Lyoto, which would be just plain gross.

@MMABLOOD

If its up to Dana though, Schaub gets the nod over Struve every day based on his TUFness.

...and I'm kinda changing my perception on the Jackson camp - it's really just Rashad who springs to mind as having stank up the joint.

[quick change of topic] Noke, Leonard Garcia, Villasenor, Sanchez, Schaub, Guillard, Guida and Condit have all proven themselves to be pretty willing to get in there and mix shit up without relying too heavily on a wrestlefuck mindset [/offtopic]

*edit due to reply link not really replying

DazedNConfused oh I like what you posted just wanted to bust skelators balls for giving me shit the other night on the can crusher post thats all.. keep it up always some good shit in there for sure.

Andy I agree with your comments on strikefarce... they will fuck this shit up.. its got the recipe for failure all in the pot...

I thought it was interesting just to see what a UFC tourney would look like .... I didn't see it as really negative towards strikeforce at all.

Man, a lot of thin skinned condoms post here.

Yeah... I do that haha. My novels are top rated, bro.

...so "happy" then? :/

....lol Sandy cunt now thats funny... Jesus someone gave me shit cus I posted a paragraph oh yeah where the fuck are you now skelator? Dazednconfused posted a fuckin novel.. wtf..

yeah - MRuss is only reacting the way most of us react - with a grim determination "not to hold your breath" - SF have let us down before and seem to have too many hurdles to jump. Thats what you get though when you deal with free-agent (mercenary) fighters who are allowed to fight in Japan, Russia, pro-wrestling or keep getting done for steroids.

At least the UFCs policy of not sharing their contracted fighters means they know WHERE they are, and WHEN they're available, without having to renegotiate every-single-fuckin-time they need to put on a show.

p.s Bobby Lashley sucks.

i love cagepotato and go on it everyday and shit changes sandy vag, if you dont like it then fuck off.

Good point andyinfammatory but I would rather see struve than schaub... imo struve is a more exciting fighter.. schaub imo will end up a can crusher or dropping down to 205 he wont be in the heavyweight scene for too long. Struve needs to work on his striking and he will be fine.. I think his ground game is top notch only bested my mir or nog in this tourney..remember schaub is in jacksons camp and with the exception of a few of his guys they are all playing it "safe"...I dont see schaub any different at the moment until he has more fights in the ufc I wouldnt give him a slot.

And by gay I don't mean homosexual. :D

PS; changing peoples names and/or editing their posts is pretty gay and communist of you. I thought you were Canadian mann. Have some poutine and relax.

but come on, in all honesty, isn't anyone else just a little bit sure that Strikeforce will fuck things up?

I'm cheering for them to pull it off. However, tournaments are tricky and usually get plagued with injuries. Add in Fedor's and the other fighters' fickle management teams and....*sigh*...y'know.

meh - Struve got merked by two of the guys in the eight-man show - he's beaten nobody-in-particular but gets more fights based on his European passport I think.

Schaub would be a better fit as he's only been murdered by ONE of his potential opponents and will no doubt put the stink onto the rapidly-ageing Mirko.

..or something..?

- and to weigh into the second argument - MiddleEasy's commentators remind me too much of MMAJunkie's who reminds me of Sherdog. Any idiot with a grudge gets a say with relative anonymity, and they dont seem to have too much of a community feel. Stick with what you do best guys, and dont let the man grind you down.

I was intruiged by this post and then:

"Contrary to popular opinion, the calibre of the UFC's HW GP would be just as good, if not better than Strikeforce's. The only noticeable difference is that there really wouldn't be any mismatches in Zuffa's heavyweightpalooza"

Um... huh? I totally agree with AnkleLock here, this site seems to always shit on Strikeforce whenever it has the opportunity. Whether the company is making good or bad decisions. Contrary to popular opinion my ass, I don't even know how many times I've had to defend that Strikeforce actually has a legitimate Heavyweight lineup.

You can't tell me that Mitrione, Schaub, Mir, Nelson and Crocop are anything special. Maybe Schaub but he has a ways to go and really hasn't showed me anything that tells me he can handle with JDS or Cain. Cain, Lesnar and JDS are obviously top 3. But one is waiting for a title shot, the others injured (and in a way that even if he heals quickly, he may never be the same) and the other doesn't know what he wants to do.

As for the way the bracket is setup for Strikeforce, it's setup in a sort of Champion (left side) to Challangers (right side) format. It makes complete sense since fans want to see Overeem fight Werdum and Fedor fight... well anybody. Either way it sets up a Overeem/Werdum vs. Fedor fight which may not happen if they were set up on opposite brackets as injuries or well contract issues (M-1, Overeem) bullshit could occur. I also heard they're trying to make every fight a 5 found affair, which is awesome.

The UFC, if Cain heals up better/quicker than expected can definitely come back and regain the heavyweight division, and fight bookings such as the ones in your proposed tournament would be awesome.
For the UFC TOURNEY:
Lesner beating Nogueria, then destroying Mir again. Then Cain would win a close decision to JDS, while Carwin would blow by Nelson. This would mean Cain could be injured/more tired from his fight then Carwin. Either way i'd see him still outpacing Carwin and still destroying Lesnar in a rematch for the title at the end of the tourney. Yeeeah. Super long posts no one in their right mind reads are awesome, I know.

Im surprised struve wasnt added to this hypothetical tourney...I feel he belongs more than schaub... maybe their fight should determine who gets the last slot... whatdya say?

@Sandy Vag dont try to mask it Coker I know this is your username ... btw dw even said you guys were the busch league mma or freakshow promotion... remember strikeforce has second rate fighters.. second rate fights and second rate fans.. as a result..

Well Mir and Nog seem pretty shot.

Cain is out til til the end of the year and the SF tourny will be over by then.

Roy is in legal trouble.

Carwins back might make him suck. Did he fix his Cardio?

Does Brock even want to fight?

I'd say, suddenly the UFC has more hurdles than SF does to getting their guys to fight.

North, I'd recommend Middle Easy if you want humour. They get a little over the top, and their videographer Layzie got sat down by Mayhem, but overall they're solid. Also, no fighter or organization bashing. What a concept.

I like both UFC and Strikeforce and have no problem with this.

Maybe the Sandy Vag just needs some Gyne Lotrimin

Ok, bye guys. Nice knowing you, had a good run on this site while it lasted. I'm not going to fight with this child who edits other people's posts.

I clearly said that the UFC's hypothetical grand prix could be better. The point was, they're not having one. This post is just a veiled attempt to shit on the Strikeforce Grand Prix, which he's been doing since it was announced.

sandy cunt or whatever your name is, ufcs would be better, higher calibre regular fighting top ten heavywieghts. Ben and Co arent bashing but being realistic

Since heavyweights are the only thing Strikeforce has in quantities greater than 1, what I would want is a combination of these two tournaments. A 16 man tournament filled with a serious seeding system from both of these tournaments (well, I could probably think of a few people more relevant than Kharitanov) conducted over the course of a year. As part of the seeding system, I would do a traditional 'worst fight best first', but I would also bracket it so as Overeem had to potentially fight a powerful and dangerous wrestler before reaching the finals, and Velasquez would have to face a powerful and dangerous striker first. I still have some questions about each man, so I would want that to happen. Ultimately, I think there is a good chance the finals might look a lot like Cain vs. JDS anyway, but it would still be a good show.

MRuss, don't change the guy's name. That's not cool.

Yeah, this editing the comments and changing people's name shit is super lame. If you're going alter shit, at least leave brackets. Or just grow a pair.

Andy... Brock would smash through his bracket like a cold knife through melted butt.. Nevermind. The winner of Dos Santos vs El Racisto(not a real word)would meet Turtle in the finale, with either being crowned champ.

....And Russell edits North's post. Wow.

Look, you're going to have a tough time avoiding accusations of bias when you assert that UFC houses better "prospects" than Strikeforce an include guys like Matt Mitrione, who's biggest W is getting a close decision over Joey Beltran, a guy he had probably 30 pounds on, and Ben Rothwell, who has nearly 40 career fights and has lost everytime he faced upper level competition, and then suggest that these guys are somehow better than dudes like Shane del Rosario, who appears to be an absolute stud, or Lavar Johnson, who looks to be at least as good as someone like Rothwell. You're telling me you'd take Struve over Rosario or Mitrione over Sefo? Bitch, please.

I think we get the point that Strikeforce sucks at delivering on promised matchups, but this kind of article is just beating a fucking dead horse.

Haha there is no beating jazzhands and the BE crew for bitchiest, but CP is definitely in the running for most sensitive MMA site commenters.

Doesn't bother me that much, it's his childish move to pull. If that's how a writer of this site deals with criticism, that's his problem. But this site used to be genuinely funny. Now it seems like they've given up competing with MiddleEasy in that end and are going after Bloody Elbow's title of Bitchiest MMA Site on the Net.

I would prefer to add one more HW to that card and have them meet the champ at the top once it's all dusted.

...and how about a bit more discussion on the topic at hand instead of ranting and raving about how everything sucks and people are mean.

Jesus, ladies - please.

(Whispering)Pssst, Ankle Lock, don't mock the gods. They might get butthu.. Oooops, too late.

In a situation like this, it's a must to quote Tommy Boy. "Those last two lines of your last post were THE COOLEST THING I EVER SAW!! Sorry about MRuss changing your name, man."

Oh nice, yeah you bully those commentors some more by changing their names. That will make some friends.

So then you're saying Cain should hand in his belt so he can fight a lesser opponent?

Oh, cool, and Russell changed my name to "Sandy Vag". That's what this site is now, eh? Good to see you can handle criticism.

@Ankle Lock... your first comment on this article was extremely accurate. Well said.

do us all a favor and stop commenting Ankle Lock.

Because it's a title fight, and people would throw shit if Arlovski or Rogers or Barnett fought for a title right off the bat. Werdum fights for the title in the first round, then the winner of Fedor/Silva (the next logical challenger) gets the next shot in the semis. The right side is weakest, because those fighters need the most wins to legitimately earn a title shot. This isn't rocket science. I'm ashamed to be Canadian, because of you. I thought we were supposed to know stuff about MMA.

This would be awesome. Also a welterweight tourney would be crazy awesome.

Because, seriously, did you need to write an entire article which boils down to basically "hurrr, the UFC Grand Prix would be better, durr...". Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. But they're aren't doing one.

I just went by all of the pending and potential match-ups to prove a point that they wouldn't necessarily have to have mismatches to make the tournament. Even if the UFC drew names from a hat and pulled out these match-ups, they would still have a great tournament.You did notice that Strikeforce is pitting Werdum and Overeem together for the first round, right? 

Holy shit, we get it. You don't fucking like Strikeforce. You claim over and over that you're not being negative when you cover stories on them, but God, look at this shit. People say this site has gone downhill since Fowlkes left, but it isn't because it's less funny, or the articles are less timely. It's because all the writers suddenly have a stick up their ass and have to crush and downplay every single thing that happens in MMA. Pessimism isn't funny, assholes. I don't know if all this is because you're trying to get on DW's good side, or something, but for Christ's sake, stop writing articles like your vaginas got hit by a sandstorm.

Brock vs Velasquez 2 ... Turtle Power

I'm not sure I understand your seeding. Junior Dos Santos is regarded as the biggest threat to Champion Cain Velasquez, right? So why would you have them face off in the quarter finals? Lesnar versus Nogueira? Maybe it's personal bias, but I'm surprised Nogueira was included at all.

Here's the ranking it looks like you used for this setup:
1. Velasquez
2. Lesnar
3. Carwin
4. Mir
5. Schaub
6. Nelson
7. Nogueria
8. Dos Santos

I have major problems with that.