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Why Hating Brock Lesnar Is So Much Fun

Plenty of people seem upset about Brock Lesnar after UFC 87. Maybe it’s because of his antics at the end of the fight. Maybe it’s because of his post-fight remarks. Maybe it’s because he won, or because everything about him reminds you of the guy who put you upside down in that trash can back in high school. We all have our reasons, is what I’m saying, even if they may be bad ones.

I’ll admit that I didn’t get a whole lot of joy out of watching Lesnar control Herring on the mat for three rounds. It wasn’t exactly a thrilling bout, athletically speaking, and his ‘ride-em cowboy’ routine was the kind of thing I hate about pro sports. But at a time when the UFC’s heavyweight division suffers from a general dearth of talent and interesting potential matchups, hate-ability may be just what we need right now.

What we have in Lesnar is the type of guy who various martial arts were created in order to protect against. He’s big, strong, fast, and aggressive. He’s all natural ability, and not so much technique at this point. His personality is abrasive, to put it mildly — the kind of guy you run into at a bar and think, ‘I’d kick your ass, if only you weren’t so big.’ What’s more, he seems to really enjoy being that guy.

After his display following the victory over Herring prompted some anger from MMA fans, Lesnar responded:

“That was just me. I was just excited. That was for Heath’s camp. I had the last laugh and the last words to say. I might’ve went a little overboard. If I offended anybody then I’m sorry…uh, not really!”

What’s not to love?

Lesnar is the typical pro wrestling heel, only he makes it seem like a genuine personality type and not just a character. He manages to be unlikable in victory, and even when he says something that would be humble coming out of GSP’s mouth, Lesnar sounds almost sarcastic.

These are natural gifts, much like his physical ones. He is the perfect bad guy, tailor made for a sport where people will pay extra to see someone they hate if there’s a reasonable chance he may get beat up. So why aren’t we happier to see him?

The irony is that when the UFC announced they’d be putting Frank Mir against Antonio Rodgrigo Nogueira for the UFC heavyweight title after the next season of “The Ultimate Fighter,” people complained that the match-up had no heat. Both guys were boring, they said. What fun will this be?

Now just try and imagine a scenario where Brock Lesnar is in a fight with anybody and there’s a lack of animosity.

We should be grateful for that. If he were just a cocky jerk with no skills, it would be different. But Lesnar is downright scary. Something about watching him against Herring seemed almost unfair, and Herring is a veteran of the sport.

If you don’t like Lesnar, that’s fine. It probably means that something is working correctly in your brain. But be honest, you don’t really want to see him disappear from the UFC. He’s too much fun, and a little fun is just what the heavyweight division needs right now.


  1. Vrax Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:33

    "He’s big, strong, fast, and aggressive. He’s all natural ability, and not so much technique at this point." Um except his extremely technical wrestling, and effortless mounts? Dude's a total asshole, o doubt, but he isn't brawling when he takes someone down, he's using great technique and leverage.
  2. Steven Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:36

    This post is 10 times better than Jordan Breen's stupid Sherdog article about how everyone should just get over it. It's true. I hate everything about Lesnar but I can appreciate he has athletic ability and a lot of potential if he trains. And I'll be rooting for him to get KO'd every time he fights.
  3. Geriatric Peon Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:39

    Agreed with the article (in fact this discussion came up in the comment section of the "quick notes on" post earlier. I think the "technique at this point" is more referring to his stand up and finishing. He relies more on his strength than any real technique, like keeping Herring down and mounting but unable to strike herring because lesnar let him roll and turtle up.
  4. Dildo_Slice Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:43

    Can't wait till Kongo mashes his face into permanent nothingness
  5. Me Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:45

    One big problem with all of Lesnars abilities. He is too big to be effective in all positions. I don't know if anybody else noticed, but he couldn't get his legs hooked when he took Heath's back. There is no wiggle room for him and plenty for smaller heavyweights. I can't stand this guys attitude, but he does have ground skills. His stand up is laughable, even despite that good (read: lucky) punch. Just look at how he actually throws punches and you'll see what I mean. He has Tyrannosaurus arms. I was telling my wife during the matchup that I wanted to see him win....sorta. I was hoping he would get beat on a little and then pull off a win in round 3, because I know what he can do for this sport. Just like Kimbo and Mayweather. If treated right all these guys could make this sport huge. Sadly, people tend to get jealous of others success' and try to tear them down. Our favorite idiot, Mr. White, scared away Mayweather and all us "hardcore" fans are trying to oust Kimbo. Let's not do the same to Lesnar.
  6. Me Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:46

    oh and his arms are to big to sneak under a chin...
  7. nog's cacks Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:53

    I've got this real horrible feeling that the cock chested lesnar is gonna be around for a while to come, i hate him which only makes this feeling worse!!!!!!! He does seem to move very quickly and obviously has a natural athletic ability, maybe with a bit more training he could be the new "Natural"
  8. MMA Wannabe Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:54

    "...except his extremely technical wrestling, and effortless mounts?" Very true, his wrestling is top-notch. However, wrestling is only part of the game. Had his striking been more disciplined or his knowledge of submissions been better then he probably could have destroyed Mir in that first round. Self-discipline and better training for the other elements of MMA will be key to Brock really succeeding in MMA. Until he achieves those things, I look forward to seeing him fail. What an asshole.
  9. metro Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 04:55

    Lesnar suffers from Ortiz disease, and it is the best thing for the division and his career. When Tito talked garbage and acted like "that guy" people bought tickets, and he got fights that he wanted faster than others (Ortiz v. Liddell 2) who may have presented a stronger challenge at that time. I love MMA and the respect that fighters have for each other, when that respect is absent, I think everyone wants to see a beatdown to humble that fighter. There's just more energy in a perceived "good vs. evil" battle.
  10. xFenixKnightx Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:03

    I love Brock since WWE. When I heard he was in UFC I got too excited. really happy he got the W. I saw his UFC all access special where they went to his ranch in Minnesota b4 the fight and in all seriousness he looks like a good guy. He went through a ridiculous training so I wasn't surprised to see him manhandle Herring. He should be 3-0 right now if he woulda pummeled Mir for at least 5 more seconds. :P GO BROCK!!!
  11. Nolimitz1090 Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:03

    His arms aren't to big to sink in a RNC and even if they were; the neck crank that he couldn't finish with in R2, just shows that he is still green. His lack of respect for the veterans of our sport is what annoys me. At least Kimbo sought out an experienced camp and his trying to improve. Brock still feels he is invisible. Now according to Matt Hughes' book he submitted Brock. Kurt Angle submitted Brock in a shoot match when they were in the WWE together. Brock is a homophobic, egotistical, ass and he better get some cliff notes on submissions.
  12. spacealias Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:04

    Since when did people want their Heavyweight fighters to be good guys? I love that Brock is a taunting, intimidating crusher. The technical fighting is great for the smaller guys who can sustain the action for multiple rounds but up in the Heavyweights, I like to see blood and crushing blows. But then again, maybe I am a bad guy?
  13. Anthony Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:18

    @Me -- Lesnar didn't try to get his hooks in. He didn't want to. Lesnar did exactly what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it. Herring was a rag dool and Lesnar toyed with him the entire fight. I love him for being an asshole. He has EVERY right to be so. All these "Go back to WWE" and other bullshit just made him more of an asshole and now that he is winning and beating guys that people said he couldn't he is gonna shove it in your face. EVERY DAMN TIME!!! I got $50 on Lesnar beating Kongo.
  14. MMANewbExpert Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:21

    I don't see how Brock's fight was boring at all. When you know that at any second Herring can pull of 1 of 100 different submissions and end the fight. Granted he didn't even get close, but the Mir fight went from Mir getting dominated to Mir submitting Brock in about 5 seconds. Any fight with Brock can end in a heartbeat. Either because he uses his giant strength and fists to put someone out, or because he gets knocked out or submitted in a flash. Isn't that why we watch MMA anyways? Because anything can happen? With Brock the possibility of the fight ending suddenly is high. Even if he will control someone on the ground like he did with Herring, he's had 2 fights in the UFC. One was a flash submission, and one was a grinder. You can hardly call him boring because 50% of the time his fight ends in a decision. If that's boring then let's ditch the 155lb weight division because most of those guys don't finish fights 50% of the time either.
  15. dyn Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:29

    if you watch the press conference lesnar says that herrings camp was talking crap to him when he was walking into the ring, and dana said that the camps and fighters (lesnar herring) were going back and forth.. herring didnt feel like he should have to contend with lesnar. if all that was said about me, and i had people talking shit to me entering the ring... i would of done the same thing at the end of that fight. no show of respect at the beginning of the fight, none at the end... herring didnt attempt to meet lesnar in the cage after the bout. so why not make him look like a fool for gettin worked by an ogre
  16. Me Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:35

    I didn't specify an RNC for one, but no he is going to have big trouble getting his arms around necks because his biceps create space to fit chins or mouths into which allow you to breathe. Also, if I remember correctly he had one hook in at one point but yea he didn't want to because it would be ridiculous for him to try. The flexability and balance required would be too great for a man of his size (At least in a dynamic environment. I'm sure he can get it in traing if he wanted.) There are a panoply of reasons why the best BJJ practitioners aren't usually that large, but the primary one (my opinion) is that muscle reduces flexability and too much muscle simply gets in the way. Ever seen a body builder scratch his own back? Me either.
  17. cw Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:37

    After one of the rounds was over Lesnar got up and shoved Herring when Herring's back was turned, forcing him to stumble into the ref. If I was the ref I would have deucted a point.... Lesnar's a punk.
  18. BrockWillShatOnKongo Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:39

    If I had a nickel for everytime I've heard "Kongo will demolish Brock" I'd have at least a buck and change, maybe more... Ist grade can figure this shit out ---> Herring dominates Kongo. Brock dominates Herring. Brock double-dog dominates. Is that too complicated ?? Read it again, only slower... I know styles make fights, but c'mon now. Herring outwrestled Kongo. Brock's wrestling is 10x better than Herring's, plus he's waaaaaay stronger. Wake the #$%^ Up already!!!
  19. Yo Momma Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:47

    Its not that I don't like Lesnar.. I just do not respect him. He acted like he had done something great in the octagon after the fight when all he really did was lay on Herring and pop a boner so Heath wouldn't move in fear of getting ass raped in the octagon in front of millions. Worst match I've seen in a while. Completely boring. It doesn't matter how much people hate him ....if his fights are boring no one will want to watch. MORE Lesnar crushing peoples faces LESS Lesnar laying on someone all fight long and acting like a douche after the match!..
  20. BeefHouse Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 05:59

    Brock "Cock-Sword" Lesner. Putting the Ass in Class since 1977! He's the Monster Bad guy we need to bring some attention to the heavys.
  21. xFenixKnightx Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:02

    Believe it or not all you Brock haters but Lesnars gonna be a key part of MMA going more and more mainstream. "Do you see me NOW?!! DO YOU SEE ME NOW!!!! Whooooooooooo!!!" :)
  22. rocky Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:05

    Lesnar's next fight against Kongo is going to be the exact same thing as this one, except without a monster right hand to start things. He's gonna shoot, sit on Kongo, and win a decision. If Lesnar does not start finishing fights he is going to get very boring. He certainly did not lay and pray, but besides a couple big knees and that right hand he did not do much damage on top, albeit he did not have to.
  23. WWE is real now? Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:09

    "Kurt Angle submitted Brock in a shoot match when they were in the WWE together. "... And everybody knows the WWE is where the real fighting and the extra tough submissions all happen...lawl. Give me a break you fool.
  24. Mikey GIlz Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:09

    Lesnar is the best thing to happen to the UFC's heavyweight division since Couture's departure. All of you ungrateful MMA Elitists out there need to chill. The simple fact is that YOU ALL LOVE to watch LESNAR fight. Just as much as I do. The point is. All of us are glad that Brock Lesnar is here. I love watching him fight just as much as I like to hear him talk shit. Ray Mysterio is the best wrestler in the world. Period. But he can't handle the mic like the Rock, and that's why the Rock's car has a Tennis Court in the backseat. And I heard someone say Chieck Kongo is going to beat Lesnar...... Slow down. Kongo couldn't handle Herring on the Ground. God help the Frenchmen when Goliath gets on top of him.
  25. Dim Dim Lil-Bit Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:12

    I would love to see Brock beat the hell out of that dumbass Kimbo.
  26. carguytx Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:15

    More like putting the ass in asshole!
  27. axhed Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:36

    "Ist grade can figure this shit out —> Herring dominates Kongo. Brock dominates Herring. Brock double-dog dominates. Is that too complicated ?? Read it again, only slower…" finally, someone with a phd in mathMMAtics showed up. i was beginning to wonder about this place.
  28. robert Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:42

    Brock used alot of illegal knees to the back of Herring. he kneed him in the center of his back and there was never a warning!
  29. real soon Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:47

    Lesnar well be the new Heavey Wieght Champ with in the next 12 mts... like it or not mark my words ppl...
  30. Robert Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:50

    it doesnt work that way axhed look at wand rampage and chuck . wand beat rampage , rampage beat chuck and chuck beat wand
  31. Nolimitz1090 Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 06:50

    WWE is real now? Says: And everybody knows the WWE is where the real fighting and the extra tough submissions all happen…lawl. Give me a break you fool. A shoot match you TARD. A real freestyle match... and I suppose Angle's Olympic medal is 24K plated. It's not that I don't like Brock, it that he is getting his shots based on name recognition alone, not earning it like so many other people. He is marketable by name only, not by talent.
  32. Grimmy Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:00

    Its too bad that Big Tim Slyvia left the UFC. I would love to see a fight between the two of them. No matter how much of an A-hole brock is being, everyone would still rtoot for him over The Big Snooze. That fight would be a win win situation for all the fans. And then they should get Couture to break his spirit like he did to the big snooze. hehehe Grimmy no matter how arrogant he gets, he still has a p*nis tattoed on his chest.
  33. Becks75 Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:04

    It's a bit odd to say that but "What we have in Lesnar is the type of guy who various martial arts were created in order to protect against" is probably the smartest thing I have heard regarding to the whole Brock Lesnar issue. There is not much more to say really. Thanks for all the right thoughts, Potatoe.
  34. Meaty Chest Sword Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:33

    @Nolimitz1090 What do you mean, "At least Kimbo sought out an experienced camp and his trying to improve"? So Minnesota Martial Arts Academy isn't "an experienced" training facility? Having coaches like Greg Nelson and Erik Paulson help train Lesnar is him not taking the sport seriously? You need to learn something before commenting. As much as I love Bas Rutten, I would say for full MMA training, Minnesota Martial Arts Academy blows away the training Kimbo is getting. Lesnar may be a jerk, but he is taking this seriously, and he is certainly with "an experienced camp."
  35. Anonymous Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:41

    in fact isn't the minnesota martial arts academy ranked 3rd or some such as far as having the winningest fighters? They were in a potato article not too long ago...
  36. BELIEVER Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:45

    Lesner is bad for the sport in the long run unles he changes. Material success and popularity is great but staying true to the honorable roots of combat sports and martial arts is essential. Brock needs to humble himself and he will be lifed up. He has a lot of gifts and I hope he can live up to his potential as a fighter and as a man.
  37. Boner Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:57

    Brock is a dickhole. He is certainly a good athlete, but he has little to no mma ability for right now. I love it when people take it for granted that an accomlised wrestler from a very long time ago is still a good wrestler now. I've wrestled a ton, and I saw very sloppy technique from Brock. He used "leverage" like any other freak of nature would use it: You keep your body weight all over the guy you're fighting to smother him. The only thing I'll concede to is that he has a good base, but so do a lot of non-wrestlers. My point is that he just used his strength and weight to keep Herring down and punch him ineffectively. I say that because with his strength, he should have finished him in the first round if he knew how to apply it in that context. PS For the record, Kongo is going to get murder by Lesnar.
  38. Boner Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 07:59

    Wow sorry my above post was fraught with spelling errors. I hate laptop keyboards.
  39. BIG CHRIS Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:00

    Brock Lesner is a better representation of the sport than Kimbo Slice.....And I only say that Cause Brock Lesnar is white.
  40. steelbus287 Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:13

    Big Chris-kill yourself.
  41. Nolimitz1090 Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:13

    Meaty Chest Sword and Anonymous... In hindsight, my post was worded incorrectly, I respect any camp that trains their fighters and I respect any camp that evolves the sport. I am sorry if I offended anybody. MMMA, MFS, Arizona Combat Sports, the Pit, Xtreme Couture, etc. have all got to be doing something right to produce fighters that are even signed by these organizations, let alone produce champions. My point was this, Brock needs to take a submission class. He could have ended the fight at least twice, once with the deep standing guillotine and once with a neck crank (failed RNC). He used his size to his advantage KUDOS to him for applying what worked. However against a seasoned ground fighter, he should really be able to do something other than throw knees on the ground. All these posts about Brock is going to steamroll the HW division, need to take a step back and realize he has a lot of knowledge left to gather. I am not a Brock or Kimbo fan, nor to I want to see them fail. I want to see good quality fights against opponents that are respectful towards each other. That's all.
  42. Aryan Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:33

    he is garbage and bad for the sport as a person..and yes i know he is fast and athletic for his size..he doesnt need much mma skills to beat most veterans because he is ridiculously bigger and quick for his size..i just hope he gets hit by a bus..atleast slice has some class
  43. formerly_stuck_at_work Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:40

    Its funny how quickly people forget the Mir fight other than the outcome. Lesnar came out of that fight about as humble and respectful as you can when you lose. Mir didn't talk as much shit as Herring, didn't demand to enter the cage second, and didn't let everyone that would listen know that he felt Brock was beneath him. As a result, aside from the shots to the back of the head, which were only a result of Mir turning into them anyway, Lesnar was respectable and professional. Herring did the opposite, so he got the wrestling heel in the cage with him. I don't see how it should have caused this much of an uproar, its not as if Herring is free of controversy. I do remember a certain no contest, that while provoked, did involve knocking out an opponent before the fight starts.
  44. L Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:47

    @BIG CHRIS: Because he's white? What, not because he's a freakishly athletic, former wrestling prodigy(The real stuff, none of that fake shit) as opposed to a street fighter fighting hasbeens and glass jaws?
  45. Markdog Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:47

    I'm tired of everybody talking about how MMA equals class. It's bullshit. The sport's objective is to beat the shit out of the other guy by beating his face to a bloody pulp, breaking his limbs, or trying to cut the oxygen flow to his brain; however, when it's all over let's hug and kiss, and let me just say that even though I whipped your ass, you are the best fighter (sounds very Christian like). I wish a fighter would just be real and not try and be MMA politically correct. I wish someone would say, "I kicked his ass cause he fought like a pussy, and I just proved it!" It's not that surprising how Brock acted after his last fight considering he came from the WWE, and also considering he doesn't give a fuck about what he says, such as how he is an open Gay basher. Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't come out in a four wheeler. Also, I think Kongo will beat Brock as much as I believe Kongo deserves a Title shot with his impressive "one fight win streak".
  46. I Agree Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 08:56

    Formerly you put it perfect- Herring talked so much shit before this fight and def overlooked Lesner.i think that Brock really doesnt have much skill besides Wrestling and his natural gifts but hes def going to get better- look how he threw little kid punches agenst mir and how he threw a hellova right through Heaths head- which reminds me Chuck Norris is NOT the only man to ever punch someone in the back of the face! haha
  47. kimboSLicER Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 09:20

    I would never pay to watch this tool this dood is pretty much the end of the UFC. UFC= white trash now
  48. Anonymous Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 09:21

    " Just look at how he actually throws punches and you’ll see what I mean. He has Tyrannosaurus arms." if you are saying he has short arms like a Tyrannosaurus and thats why they look so big you are deff wrong. he had a longer reach then heath who is slightly taller than him
  49. Ballz Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 09:37

    Brock Lesnar is here to stay. With that said he came out strong and then hesitated anyone else see that? It looked almost as if he was afraid to hit herring. His punches are devastating to say the least. He never did much except for his wrestling side control moves he was going for a double arm take down. When he did mount he never did anything with it. Hopefully he was just taking this one slow. As for herring he needs to do something. What that something is is still unknown. But as far as him beating Cheick kongo as his big claim to being somebody he better seriously rethink that!
  50. BELIEVER Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 10:09

    There is nothing more "real" than to give respect to the person who has gone through what you have and faces you in battle/competition. If" keeping it real" has come to mean excusing poor behavior and magnifying the animalistic side of mma at expense of everything positive, count me out. If ones view of reality is that distorted and myopic then you should consider learning more about martial arts and a warriors spirit. That or stick to illegal dogfighting or cockfighting or perhaps 2 insects you put in a jar. Are we real yet?
  51. Lance Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 10:37

    I thought the fight was boring and uneventful. Yes, Brock is an animal physically and mentally, but he has a lot to learn in MMA. Note: Wonder if Vince McMahon was behind Brock's lame "Ride'em Cowboy" antics. (haha)
  52. cock tattoo Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 10:49

    ...and he's a meathead from the midwest. lacking steroids he'd be selling tickets to the world's biggest ball of twine or cucumber or some other roadside attraction, like matt hughes will be soon. COME ONE, COME ALL, SEE THE WORLD"S BIGGEST ROID FREAK CORNHOLE A HUGHES BOY!!!
  53. Can You see Me Now Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 10:58

    You all act like Brock is the first to celebrate in a "WWE" fashion! Like it was pointed out in another thread, there are tons of so called "classy" fighters who celebrate like jackasses. BJ Penn with his blood licking, Anderson Silva with his air guitar, GSP with his breakdancing and backflips, Rampage dog howling, Royce Gracie with his in your face "you tapped, YOU TAPPED", Sakuraba's crazy ass entrances. Brock was certainly not the first and certainly won't be the last. He kept it very professional and respectful and humble during all the hype before the fight, unlike Heath, and apparently Heath's camp. He totally dominated someone who he wasn't supposed to have a chance against who was also a big jackass to him, I think he's allowed to celebrate like he did.
  54. brocks_mum Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 11:05

    brock shoulda thrown dung on herring after he was done with him. that what his daddy did wit me. learned me real good. i ain't never gonna ask to go dearhuntin' 'gain neither.
  55. BELIEVER Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 11:16

    Your right about some points there (can you see me). I think the difference with brock is that his celebration antics underscored an overall disrepect that better men don't carry. Even with the attitudes given by the other camp brock missed an opportunity to be the true bigger man with his victory.
  56. Dr. Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 11:23

    Like him or not Brock is a piece of shit. He does bring a lot of retarded WWE crossovers to MMA so in some ways he's good for the sport. But he is also crap for the sport. I didn't order the the PPVs he was on because of him. And I sure as fuck don't care about whether he gets beat or not. He couldn't even put a moderate slam on Herring for being such a great wrestler with monster strength and technique. Sure he took him down but other HWs have been able to slam Herring for weighing less than him. Like hell I'll order a PPV where he is the headliner. And I reiterate that Brock is a fag. All that is about him points to being one. Get your fag on Brock, you piece of shit.
  57. Dr. Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 11:30

    And the comment about Herring not coming over wish Brock well after the fight is BULLSHIT. Would you say, "Hey man, nice win." after some dickhead acts like a piece of shit? Pointing and laughing at people doesn't exactly warrant a positive response. Nor does riding someone like a fag cowboy. I bet the idea SOUNDED good didn't it, Brock? You looked like a dumb-ass thrusting yourself on Herring's ass. You would have lost to Hong Man Choi if the Cal Ath Commission cleared him that time.
  58. Karmaatemycat Says:

    Mon, 08/11/08 - 11:48

    Brock just needs more time in the ring it's that simple Brock has always been a guy i've enjoyed watching no matter what he was doing NCAA/Pro-wrestling/UFC. Brock is amazing for the industry he brings that entertainment aspect out of the sport the "Bad guy" character that we all love to hate and Hate to see win(Accept me). One of the things everyone seems to forget is that even though this is his third MMA fight Brock was using those legs to destroy Herring it was almost painful to just sit there and watch, Brock is learning that with his size and his power that he can control the speed of the match and his opponents can't run away it's just a matter of time until the Prize pig pays off and you'll all have to just sit there and wait. Brock has nowhere accept "Up" to go... <3 It's hard to be a fan of Brock Lesnar but I'll do my best and sit sidelines cheering every single time he steps into a ring. Because here comes the pain..
  59. A.gweeok Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 12:03

    It's funny how alot of people say his antics after the fight were bad blah blah. I agree some of it was a little over board but go back and watch his interview before the match. He talks about how Herring is a seasoned fighter with more experience. He acted very mature and gave props to Heath, but every single damned herring interview he talked shit. Every time herring had something to say about how brock wasnt shit and he implied that he "deserved" a better opponent. I rooted for brock I didnt like his antics afterward, but I think with what everyone was saying about him it was justified. Finally if you think that first punch that knocked Heath across the fucking ring was luck you need to open your eyes and watch that moment again. Heath ate that punch it wasnt a wild swing. That punch wasnt some overhand it was just a straight right down his throat and he payed for blinking.
  60. matthew5608 Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 01:39

    I just don't understand how everyone thinks they need to hate on lesnar. First of all what is there to hate? you say too cocky? wouldn't you be if you were an accomplished athlete taking mma by storm who has made alot of money already and married to sable? And why is everyone getting so upset about him doing his little celebration after the fight? again put yourself in his shoes, winning a fight over a veteran of the sport who prefight said he felt you shouldn't be getting this chance... sorry but if you wouldn't rub the win in the face of a guy who completely dissed you, then you aren't a competitor.
  61. Markdog Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 01:44

    Fuck you Believer! To even condone dog fighting is idiotic. Who the fuck are you to say, "Your right on some points there" - an MMA Dr. Phil? Warrior spirit yakety smakety, it's not a religious ceremony. People don't go for a spiritual experience, they go to get fucked up and watch some fights. I bet you watch MMA events with a lampshade on your head. Brock had the balls to talk shit to HH in his face, and HH had 15 minutes to do something about it, and he was not able to do shit. Talking shit makes him lesser of a man, why? Just because he had the balls to say what he felt? It is just annoying to me when fighters sound fake. It's cool if you want to act respectful and all that like Anderson Silva. But you can tell he is sincere and it's not a load of shit. But Brock shouldn't be forced to say something that he doesn't feel like just because you think it's not right. If you want to act classy fine, if you want to talk shit fine too. You don't have to "gild the lily" if you don't want to.
  62. matthew5608 Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 01:53

    i agree with markdog, and to add to that, doesn't shit talking make a fight more marketable anyway? think about some of the huge rivalries and ask yourself if you would have been so pumped up to watch if they hadn't said anything at all. for example shamrock vs. tito... they did so much shit talking to eachother and i don't remember everyone getting so pissed at them and saying they have no warrior spirit. TO "BE REAL" MEANS TO BE YOURSELF, IF YOU ARE A SHIT TALKER, TALK YOUR SHIT!
  63. Shane Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 02:49

    Brock is going to be interesting as time goes on. He'll learn more, and look more comfortable in the octagon. This fight with Herring was a must win, it may of been boring but he did what was needed to win the fight. He brings alittle of the WWE swagger which is entertaining. People are gonna either love to watch him kill some guy or hope he gets his ass beat. Excellent choice by Dana for bringing him into the UFC.
  64. Cock Chestner Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 03:07

    What does the author mean talking about lesnars ground game? Herring was able to break mount anytime he wanted to. and who the hell says a .500 fighter (herring) was a true mma fighter that brock beat? Mir is a true fighter, and we saw what happened when brock fought someone who wasnt washed up. Brock loses his next fight by KI you heard it from cock chestner himself boys n girls!
  65. Can You See Me Now Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 03:22

    Cock Chestner, learn math much? How is 28-13 (now 28-14) a .500 fighter? That was better than a .750 record, now exactly a .750 record after his loss to Brock. Besides that, most of those losses are to guys you might have heard of like Fedor, Big Nog X 3, Crocop, Vitor... I don't think they would put a non MMA fighter in against those guys... Yea Mir is the greatest ever. He was dominated 99% of that fight and capitalized on a rookie mistake. He even had the huge help from the ref standing up the fight, giving him a breather, while the ref (everyone admits) badly took away a point from Brock. He still got promptly put on his ass and pounded on some more before the rookie mistake. Who has Mir beat? Tim Sylvia when he was a nobody? Tank Abbot? Wow.
  66. BELIEVER Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 03:33

    Mark,with all due respect, you need to read my posts again.1- I obviously don't condone dogfighting and have even had extra training for the aggresive enforcement against it.2- I'm the person who agreed to a previous persons points.3-i don't think going to an mma event is a religious experience and I never stated anything about why people watch.4- feeling that someone has has treated you with disrespect, then turning around and intentionaly treating them the same-makes you less than the man you could be.5- I agree with you bro. Brock should speak with honesty. He has the free will to do and say whatever he wants. Out of his mouth his heart flows. I'd hate to see brock be fake. I'd love to see him be a bigger man and a more complete fighter. Mahew- IF BE REAL MEANS STAY THE WAY YOU ARE WHEN YOU COULD BE BETTER, COUNT ME OUT. I never questioned brocks warrior spirit. I stated that if a person seeks to magnify the animalistic side of mma at the expense of all that is positive, then they should look deeper into reality and learn more about martial arts and the warrior spirit. To do less reduces mma to something disgusting. Like dog fighting for example.
  67. JamesChrist Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 03:56

    Does anyone know why he has the sword tattoo? Do you think anyone told him before he got it that it would look like a wang between his tits? Maybe that's what Herring was telling him
  68. Shane Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 04:40

    Lesanr is the best. The only one having a chance at beating Fedor the next few years. No he will not be able to beat him now but in 3-4 yrs he will. He will be unstopable and dominate any heavyweigth in the world. Im a huge Lesnar fan. One of the best decicison Dana White and UFC has made. We all know the dont make the greatest ones
  69. lesserEVIL Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 04:53

    Brock Lesnar is just a tool..his so called wrestling technique was using his steroid infested body to sit on HH..whoopdy doo. I will admit he is an athlete and when he charged at Herring after he knocked him down it was scary. He is too cocky for what he has accomplished in MMA..2-1 , wow your a rock star! His "ride em' cowboy" move was during the last seconds of the fight, come on dude, wait till the end you jackass. Probably won't get the next PPV with him in it, just a match with one dude laying on another dude. PS. Looks like Lesnar is getting titty fucked with that tattoo lol
  70. Markdog Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 06:56

    Believer, if your a cop, then Fuck you more! Does anyone know where I could get "extra training for the aggresive enforcement against [dog fighting?]" What the fuck are you talking about?? Are you a cop or a dog catcher or a faggot???
  71. BELIEVER Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 11:27

    Mark-You can get more education/training on whatever type of crime you care about (criminals already know this) and your personal issues with authority don't matter. I think I'm used to hearing "fuck you" by now. Especially when someone has run out of logic. Bottom line is that brock is a punk who likes being a punk. Its worked for him for a long time. He has the potential to be a lot more. I'm out.
  72. PointsWin Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 02:08

    Brock needed to win and he won, you could see that he was just ensuring the win and learning as he went on. I don't think you realize how much Brock has learned in the last 6 months or so, wrestling is what Brock does best so of course he is going to use this to his advantage. No one can match him when it comes to mat wresting, he is just building up his moves as he goes along. It will take time for a man of Brocks size to learn how to apply submissions at will but when he does he will be a top star in the UFC. It will take another 5 or 6 fights before you can begin to judge Brock on all areas of his game.
  73. C-Bass Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 04:40

    Brock Lesnar: Good Fighter....Crappy Person!!!
  74. griffin lover Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 05:46

    please nobody should compare lesner to kimbo. who has kimbo fought!!! all fights against nobodies and when they did put him in there with someone close to being a mma fighter he should have lost but the ref refused to stop the fight. At least lesner came into the sport and fought good fighters. and for brock as a person he is new to this give him time to tame his attitude he's just a lil pumped up with all the excitement!!!!!!!!
  75. Jason from Washington Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 06:18

    I dont think that Brock wants to be hated. He seems to thrive on people cheering for him, which pumped him during this last fight. Seems like the pressure and aggression of the sport makes him react aggressively. It was obvious that the tone of his antics did a complete turn around when the two fighters came back to one another for a peace offering. I dont think I will hate him just because he is socially retarded under pressure. Besides, I dont want him to be perfect. Perfection is boring.
  76. Dagnut Says:

    Tue, 08/12/08 - 08:10

    So when did it become about personalities eh? You bunch of fcuking hypocrites...isn't that what they do on wrestling?..sell personalities to you? catch your self on for fuck's fighting not American idol...who gives a fiddlers fcuk if you "like" him or not.. "oh lesnar he's such a dick blah blah blah...SO WHAT? I guarantee in 5 years he'll be an all American hero selling frosted lucky charms cheerios or what ever it is you eat over there...the biggest name in the sport the guy who becomes the first bona fie superstar of the sport. Don't know if that's a good thing or not ? personally I don't like it becoming mainstream because we watch the pay per view in the early hours of the morning over here in Ireland so I have to listen to the same drunk muppets who used to shite talk to me about pro boxing pretending they know what their talking about now shite talking MMA. @ C-Bass "..crappy person" so what are you with the red cross or something? a green peace activist is it? curing caner? your a joke grow some balls
  77. Bootylam! Says:

    Wed, 08/13/08 - 03:12

    Dagnut's right. Maybe Brock's just an asshole. I know I am. It's not a popularity contest where most congenial wins.
  78. cr_trinity Says:

    Thu, 08/14/08 - 07:07

    Hey Noguiera must be shitting his pants right now. I know he has fought bigger (Sapp) and he has taken beatings and come back (Cro Cop, Sylvia) but he won't be able to take Lesnar once that fight happens. Which should after Brock hoses the UFC Heavyweight Division. I expect him to F5 something, and I don't see why he couldn't. Seriously.
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