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Will UFC 161 Mark the Last Time We See Roy Nelson in the Octagon?

(And with a snap of his fingers, Homeless Santa vanished from our lives, leaving behind only the crumpled wrapper of the Carolina BBQ Tendercrisp we had left for him on the armoire.)

It wouldn’t exactly be earth-shattering news to tell you that Dana White is not a fan of Roy “Big Country” Nelson. In fact, the President of the UFC has stated exactly that to pretty much anyone who will listen, time after time after “he’s a f*cking idiot.”

The fact that Nelson was one-half of the coaching duo at least partly responsible for the worst season of TUF in recent memory (at least ratings wise), surely doesn’t increase his stock in the eyes of The Baldfather, but with “Big Country” knocking out contenders left and right, it’d be insane to let him slip through your fingers, right? Well, according to DW, Nelson’s bout with Stipe Miocic at UFC 161 this weekend may be his last in the UFC:

UFC President Dana White used the contract circumstances as a way to explain the pairing of Nelson and Miocic, which looked odd when announced five weeks ago.

The fighters were headed in different directions. Nelson had just defeated Cheick Kongo and ascended to No. 5 in the heavyweight rankings two months ago while Miocic was coming off the first loss of his career and hadn’t fought in nine months.

Slated to fight newcomer Soa Palelei on the preliminary card, Miocic found himself promoted into the Nelson bout on late notice. It was a necessary move, according to White, because of the terms of Nelson’s contract.

“He’s on the last fight of his deal and we owe him a fight,” White said. “He’s not giving us any extensions.”

White reported that the UFC offered Nelson an extension that he turned down, prompting the boss to blast the fighter by referring to him as “the smartest guy on Earth” and “a (expletive) genius.” 

Although White has had public beefs with fighters before, none of them have seemed as deep-seated and plain bitter as his current lover’s quarrel with Nelson. It doesn’t help that Nelson approaches his contract negotiations — and apparently life in general — with the attitude of a cynical, defiant adolescent, but “Big Country” does go on to make some solid points about White’s contradictory nature and fighter pay in general later in the interview.

A quick example of the former: If you were to click the “he’s a f*cking idiot” link above, you would be taken to an interview with White dated May 29th in which he claims that Nelson hasn’t earned a title shot because “You’re not going to get a title shot for beating No. 6 and No. 8. You have to beat the top guys.” Which is sound logic, except that just a few weeks prior, White promised that exact thing to Gray Maynard (ranked #3) were he to get past T.J Grant (ranked #7).

Clearly, White has an axe to grind when it comes to Roy Nelson. The problem is that rather than attempt to reconcile with his boss like a grown ass man, Roy has chosen to embrace to heel role and essentially commit career suicide. While Nelson may be able to walk away from UFC 161 with a moral victory, it won’t make his exit any easier to accept from a fan’s perspective. The man is a legitimate, unique draw who just so happens to be one of the top 10 heavyweights in the world, yet he appears all too willing to flush his future down the toilet for the sake of coming out on top in a pissing contest.

Is Nelson underpaid considering his talent level? You could surely make the case (FYI, Roy made 24k/24k at UFC 159), but then again, if Roy and fighters like him are fed up with fighter pay, perhaps they should try proactively solving their problems rather than continuously venting them to any two-bit journalist who will listen. You know who complained a lot without ever accomplishing anything? Hippies, and if Nelson wants to be lumped in with those unkempt slobs, well…*looks at header image and withdraws argument* 

Personally, I loathe the idea of Nelson being ousted from the UFC, if only because it means that we will be treated to interview snippets wherein he claims that “I could have totally beaten so-and-so IF the UFC weren’t such cheapskates” for the rest of his career.

-J. Jones

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NuclearSun- June 13, 2013 at 11:56 pm
@Clyde With 4 KOotN Bonuses you'd think DW is paying Roy what he's worth. Not their fault he won the TUF and was still on that contract.
The12ozCurls- June 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Roy willingly went on TUF and his current pay rate is that of a TUF winner. Sure, he is underpaid but nobody put a gun to his head to sign on the dotted line. So now, he is finally in a position of power and wants what he thinks he's worth. If DW & the UFC aren't willing to meet his price then (unfortunately for fight fans) he needs to seek employment elsewhere. It's business but DW always makes it personal & it is totally irresponsible of the President of a major promotion to air dirty laundry to the press. But that's DW. Always has been & always will be. That being said, Roy is only worth what somebody is willing to pay him no matter how entertaining a fighter he is.
Cestus84- June 13, 2013 at 11:00 pm
@The12ozCurls Didn't Nelson win the TUF contract in 2009 or 2010? I thought the winner gets a one-year six-figure contract. It's been more than a year now, I would think Nelson would've renegotiated his contract by now. I could be wrong though.
SquidInk- June 13, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Nearing the point of being completely sick of Dana's shit.

He needs to learn to put his personal feelings aside and be a fucking professional.

Roy may be an ass but the guy can fight and I always, always, ALWAYS want to see his fights.
Clyde- June 13, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Dana, pay the man what he's worth. In 9 fights he's had 4 knockout of the night and one fight of the night bonus. He's top 10 in the world and deserves his place in the UFC.
Thumblaster- June 13, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Roy's tiny nonexistant pec's make me feel better about myself. Thank you roy.
Thumblaster- June 13, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Roy might be a stupid fucking asshole but I do'nt fucking care, he's an extremly talented , well rounded fighter with a great chin and one punch knockout power . His fights are always exciting and he can beat anyone outside the top 2 or 3 heavies. I'm pretty sure the ufc could afford to pay a top 10 heavyweight with consistant ko, and fotn performances properly.
Mr_Misanthropy- June 13, 2013 at 3:15 pm
His dressing room stipends are the real negotiation sticking point. The UFC is getting tired of providing him a whole spit roasted boar, six hares stewed in their own juices, a braised peacock, and a barrel of mead every time he fights. It's also quite difficult to whip up a vat of canard à la rouennaise spur of the moment as a win bonus.
dranokills- June 13, 2013 at 2:43 pm
fuck Ju mang I cut ju! :)
seriously I don't have a shirt, so you can't blame that shit on me....lardass.
cman- June 13, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Seriously, how can any of you NOT want Nelson in the UFC? You all forget, he was never supposed to win, but does, and does explosively. Plus since BG told me he has no xl or larger shirts because all of you fatasses took em.... he should be your heros.
doowm- June 13, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Roy's an ass and everyone who watched him on his stint as a competitor on TUF knows it. (*Remember the line"I thought they were making a big deal out of me being here not Kimbo"?*) But DFW's also an ass AND he owns (part of) the company. Trump DFW. Roy's a bad ass gatekeeper and thats where it ends. Put him in there w/ the elite and he becomes a soft, white punching bag.....
dranokills- June 13, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Nelson got outclassed, outworked, and his ass handed to him by Junior. So Roy can stay here and be a curtain pulling midcard so-so fighter, OR he can bitch like a schoolgirl, leave and be a powerhouse in slob-B show. His act has went as far as it can go in the UFC, go play lumberjack-Buddha somewhere else. I agree with Dana White Roy nelson is a fucking idiot! Just like Rampage jackson, and Randy Couture.
nickyroose- June 13, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Hippies accomplished a lot actually.

Besides is there any doubt Nelson is now a gate Keeper for all eternity? Who exactly is he going to beat among the top 5 heavyweights? No one.

While I agree he should be paid more especially considering his thrill-a-minute stlye you can't compare him to Gray.

Gray was ranked #3. Say what you will about rankings but still. If Roy was number three nd beat number 6 and 8 I think he would get a title shot.

Although it seems laughable they have Werdum as #4, there are good matchups for Roy. Alistair, Silva, Mark Hunt, all fun fights to watch, all he'll most likely lose but still has a shot.

But let's be real though no way in hell for him to beat Cormier in 10 fights. He loses to Dos Santos and Cain literally a 100 out of 100. He's got big power but still laughable wrestling, only can submit strikers, Lost to Frank Mir and Werdum and doesn't seem to have gained any skills to defeat either in the meantime.

All in all he is vastly underpaid. The other option is to be overpaid to crush cans for a long time, until enough cans crushed mints you a shot back in the UFC.

towelie- June 13, 2013 at 12:01 pm
i have no loyalty to the UFC either. I like to see good fights. If they can't pay the fighters their worth to keep them in the UFC stable, then maybe Roy should go to a competing brand. WSOF is on NBC, Bellator on Spike
drainplugofideas- June 13, 2013 at 11:40 am
I don't like it when DWhite does these type of things. Fighting is a difficult sport. Just work behind the scenes and do your job without venting your frustrations like a bratty kid. Love MMA but I don't have any loyalty to the UFC. If they keep making good fights then of course I'll continue watching, but I've never really liked them as a company.
Sopapo- June 13, 2013 at 11:33 am
nelson in bellator would totally make me watch that shit. Jeez, it would be great considering he wouldnt beat JDS or Werdum, u could make a case of him catching Cain suspect chin or Overeem of course. Id rather see him ko people than loose decisions. just look at lombard's career outside the ufc, moussassi, Khalidov. Those guys are freaking fun to watch even if the competition isn't top lvl. Plus he is getting screwed on that money..
boober- June 13, 2013 at 11:30 am
Good on Nelson, I hate to see him go but he should be making at least 50k to show.
BaghdadBob- June 13, 2013 at 11:27 am
White is a spoiled, overly-sensitive prepubescent girl. - Roy Nelson