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In Your Face, Koscheck: Phillipe Nover Focusing on Career as Male Nurse Over MMA

(There’s only one thing a male nurse hates worse than paperwork: Armenians. PicProps: MMAConvert)

Here’s one for all you morons who fire off those clever “If he doesn’t like it, he shouldn’t be a fighter!” message board posts every time a guy (or girl) utters a discontented word about payment, injury and/or the all-around shittiness of how MMA treats its athletes: “TUF 8” finalist Phillipe Nover is taking your advice. The kid Dana White once prematurely ejaculated all over by comparing him to Georges St. Pierre tells Sherdog this week that he’s taking a break from fighting in order to pursue the assumedly more lucrative, stable and less dangerous career as a technician in a cardiac lab at a hospital in New York.

It seems Nover – who at just 26 comes off as far, far too reasonable for the MMA industry here – would rather enjoy the perks of health insurance, a pension plan, a steady paycheck and the protection of his labor union than toil on the independent circuit after being cut from the UFC following his loss to Rob “The Lord of South County” Emerson at UFC 109. We know, what a pussy, right?

“I needed to do something to stabilize my life and take care of myself and possibly my future family,” Nover says. “That’s why getting health insurance was my number one priority and getting a job where there’s a union involved where they can’t just let you go. With MMA, the stability just isn’t there like where I work now … I lost and basically needed to get my life stabilized. I needed to get a stable job and not have to wait every three or four months to get paid. I needed a job with insurance and a pension.”

Nover began his fighting career at 4-0-1 and then jetted through the “TUF 8” tournament only to be outclassed by Efrain Escudero at the live finale, losing a UD. Expectations remained high for Nover, mostly based on White’s verbal strokejob during the reality show, but he never came close to living up. Aside from losses to Emerson and Escudero – who have both subsequently also been fired – Nover saw the cancelation of a scheduled bout with Sam Stout at UFN 19 after he collapsed backstage from what the Dog says was later “attributed to a combination of pre-fight anxiety, the severe weight cut and then gorging after he made weight.”

An interesting aside: Of the eight lightweights who competed on “TUF 8” only one is still under contract to Zuffa: George Roop, who fights as a featherweight in the soon-to-be-defunct WEC. And they wonder why we think “The Ultimate Fighter” has outlived its usefulness.

Anyway, Nover hasn’t fought since his loss to Emerson, owing in equal parts to his newer, better job and an emergency appendectomy that put him on the shelf for the last couple of months. He says he’s had opportunities to compete since his UFC release but passed them up, preferring instead to focus on his career as a health care professional. From where we’re sitting, that seems like a totally understandable move.
“My manager did call me, but he knows I’m taking time off right now,” Nover says. “He called me about a fight in Europe over the summer and another in California, but, as of now, he knows what I’m doing in my life. I want to be a normal person for a little bit because fighting does take up a lot of your time.”

Somewhere, we imagine Josh Koscheck is staring at the screen of his laptop, mumbling to himself, “Male nurse … male nurse … male … nurse … You’re a nurse …”

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monkeyknuckler- November 8, 2010 at 6:50 am
You know what they call a Male Nurse around where I live?
A nurse.
edhedicus- November 5, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Im sure Josh "The Giant Douche" Koscheck (just gave him a new nickname) won't mind a male nurse when GSP is done with.... oh wait, lay and pray doesn't hurt that bad, carry on....
MoTropolis- November 5, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Dude you're dazed and confused...dazed and confused bro...You're a dazed and confused...I mean c'mon man, you're dazed AND confused.
DazedNConfused- November 5, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Well Sudos KFC, he makes 48,000 to fight and fights a regular of 3x a year. So that's already... drum roll... 144,000 a year. He has also recieved fight of the night honors 3 times and submission of the night once.

That alone surpasses the 200,000 mark, figuring a fighter like Edgar has gained a bonus once a year of $65,000 (that's a low assumption too), not looking upon the extra money he most likely made regarding locker room bonuses for beating BJ Penn two times. I don't know if he did make any, so I won't add those in.

Then comes the sponsorship cash, there was an article on Bloody Elbow regarding that a while back after Mitrione was pissed his agent could only get him 5000 for a fight, and fired him. The subsequent article from Snowden talked about how most higher level fighters can make anywhere from 20-30,000 a fight for sponsors. Including wearing the hats, shirts before and after the fights, mouthguards, and banners, drinking the energy drinks and such. They also pay quite a bit for spots on fighters shorts, where the crotch and ass are worth the most. Some fighters (not Edgar but Liddell for example) can make up to 100,000 just from sponsors alone. Edgar probably only makes 15000 or so as he isn't a big name and that's around the average.

I tried looking for the BE link on their archives but apparently their search isn't working and they're sorry for the inconvenience, so I can't provide the source but you'd have to be a retard not to believe fighters can make that much. Hell me saying 200,000 for Edgars paycheck, especially this year is severely low. He probably made near 300,000, but like you say my opinion means nothing. All I wanted to do was prove my previous lowball assumption of 200,000. It's not like I was saying Edgar banked a million this year:S
Almost North- November 5, 2010 at 3:37 pm
The way the Australian dollar is going these days you can upgrade from the male mail nurse catalog to the vastly superior mail nurse edition eh?

Seriously, it used to be like 28 to 1. We all better learn to speak Kangaroo before dingos eat our babies.

fatbellyfrank- November 5, 2010 at 3:28 pm
@ Almost, I have regular correspondence with a company in Herzegovia, who ( drum roll), MAIL NURSE catalogues to me so I can choose a (ahem) Bride from the eastern Bloc, ( Badoom tish)

Oh fuck " THE Eastern Bloc" Im a fucken rascist
DazedNConfused- November 5, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Agreed Chronic. It's what i'd rather have.
Sudos KFC- November 5, 2010 at 2:36 pm

I always laugh when fans guesstimate how much they "figure" someone is making. Your opinion means nothing because its based on nothing, its nothing more than what you thought of sitting in front of your computer. I think if the fighters made what lay fans "figure" they make they'd be pretty happy.

My point?

Source on your sponsor pay claims or GTFO
MoTropolis- November 5, 2010 at 2:09 pm
"Can I use your computer Liz?"

"How else ya gonna do it?"

That shit was funny.
Fried Taco- November 5, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Google "pinkberry dana white" and you'll see where it came from.

BTW, even since Tracy Morgan explained what Googling is on 30 Rock, I've enjoyed doing it a lot more now.
El Famous Burrito- November 5, 2010 at 1:54 pm
I think its just an ice cream store that Dana likes.
jimbonics- November 5, 2010 at 1:35 pm
So, being tired of being ignorant about what the fuck "pinkberry" is, I looked that shit up.

And now I'm more confused. Where did this CP meme originate?
emceelokey- November 5, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Even if he were to get paid 100k per fight, he'd already have to give a 3rd of that to taxes and even if his yearly income was only that 100k, he'd be taxed as if he gets paid 100k a day on that so it would probably be close to 35% on the 100k so he'd take home 65k, then he'd have to pay managers and training camps so that can be another 10k taken off, so by the end of that, there's roughly 55k left from the fight money. If it's a good year, then he'd be able to fight 3 times a year for that rate but training full time and fighting full time will eventually lead to some sort of injury that will sideline him sooner or later. Let's say he can bring in an extra 100k in sponsorships and bonuses through out the entire year, that will all be taxed and be withered down to about 60 k or so as well so for a a decent full, 3 fight year, he'd be able to take home 150 k or so.

He's just smart enough to realize he's not going to be a GSP or a PPV main even draw, and he's going into one of the most recession proof fields there are.

When a legend of the sport like Ken Shamrock, who's probably have a few million+ years, is basically whoring himself out for a 10k paycheck, being a male nurse seems pretty good.
MoTropolis- November 5, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Its makes you sound ignorant when you try and peg what a fighter actually makes for their fights. Dont forget, they're called "disclosed salaries" because there are locker room bonuses and such in effect. Dont you for one fuckin second think those pinkberry coupons arent helping these fighters on a day to day.
Meister574- November 5, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I'm not going to call him a pussy for not being a fighter. I don't have the gonads to do it and respect anyone who does. I will call him a pussy for quitting MMA so he can have almost total job security. So I guess he would not have left if fighters could unionize to make it almost impossible for Dana to fire them even if they had a 0-5 record.
Almost North- November 5, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Mr Misanthropy, secret head of the CP human resources department, strikes again.
Mr_Misanthropy- November 5, 2010 at 12:05 pm
And what's with bagging on transgendered homophobes? It's like ya'll are a bunch of racist racists, hatin' on the haters.

Can't a chick have a dick and still hate faggots?

Mr_Misanthropy- November 5, 2010 at 12:03 pm
He should have tried selling drugs. I bet you could sell a shitload of drugs and still have plenty of time to trane hard.
J-Dog- November 5, 2010 at 11:52 am
I wonder if this guy has an underlying health problem that hasn't been discovered yet. Isn't he the one who passed out right at the beginning of TUF? Then he collapses again before a fight... Hmmmm..... I hope he's healthy. Good choice to get a normal day job.
El Famous Burrito- November 5, 2010 at 11:37 am
You're Filipino.


I'm on fire today.
marcusdbrutus- November 5, 2010 at 11:32 am
He's Filipino.
Goog- November 5, 2010 at 11:26 am
I skipped over this when I saw the photo... assuming it was just his personal vid blog of him signing his contract to fight Matt Hammill.

Also... he apparently did go back to Armenia where that giant-ass dot matrix printer would now be considered state of the art.
jimbonics- November 5, 2010 at 11:25 am
I approve of the comments in this thread. You may all sleep easier tonight.
Canadian Chronic- November 5, 2010 at 11:25 am

yep, thats all true. But, Frankie is the beltholder right now, do ya think any other middle of the pack fighter is making that kind of scratch? How long will those endorsements and sponsors be there when he isn't on top? how about after he left the sport? I think it would be a great exercise to find out who comes ahead, a prizefighter in the "earning years" of his sport or a medical professional over the duration of their working years and the years in which he receives his pension. You could add in all sorts o shit. the fighter minus his trainers fee, dietician fees, gym and travel fees, nutrition and supplements, for the Medical professional, you can throw in pension, health insurance, benefits etc.

I dunno, but I think I'd rather be the medical professional, bitches aren't neccearily draping themselves on you, but, you dont get punched in the face or in the instance when Cheik fights, kneed in the balls
Shatski- November 5, 2010 at 11:04 am
I think the lightweight competiton was, for the most part, thin that season. Most the the Light Heavys were, too, really. It was just a season that dropped the ball on casting. More about the "Junie" entertainment than the fight talent.