Massiveamounts : ur such an idiot... u say "GSP cheated" I'm pretty sure it wasnt GSP who was massaging him-self & then rub a lil amount if any vaseline on his back and/or shoulders..... so get ur facts striaght u limp dick jello cock pillow biten F@Gg0T. BJ is crying over somethign that had nothign to do with the outcome, get over it too u loser. If it was a close fight or back and forth then maybe..... maybe u could do something to change the rules but u cant punish GSP at all & people even pro trainers make mistakes, eventhough I do not think it was a mistake... there was .1 gram of vaseline maybe left over after it was rubbed into GSP's face, noce, chin, cheeks, eye brows, forehead then rubbing GSP's temples, then starts to rub GSPs back for a few seconds and shoulders..... WOW thats almost like knowingly took steroids.... right?!?!? ur a stupid fucking idiot, go BLOW BJ & tell him to lie in his bed and think about GSP owning him and then tell him to go fuck him-self, F@T ASS HAwaiian!!!!


GSP is da man, plain & simple!!! GSP = P4P #1 in the world, owning BJ proves it!!

agreed

I've come to realize that BJ's loss was beyond the fact that Vas was possibly used as almost all viewers of that fight saw that BJ was donimated to the point where many would argue that Vas didn't matter. Some are absolutely right when they say that Vas didn't play a role when BJ was getting punched in the face but you can't say that it didn't play a role in the guard. I've never taken Jits but I've watched enough fights to know that greasing the upper portion of the back limits the control a fighter has, even when they are the "Prodigy". What I think IS BJ's demise is the training heirarchy he has at his camp.

When I heard his brother JD say on UFC Primetime that BJ is the president of this camp and everybody else is HIS cabinet I knew that was not a winning formula. Brothers being their chief of staff and advisors..... and so on...... Basically BJ is at the top of his training camp (President) and everybody is there to help that one guy to physically/mentally prepare for his fights 365 days a year. Sounds fine but the problem lies when BJ is surrounded by a bunch of "yes men". Do whatever the President wants, as long as he is happy right. Vacation with girlfriend a week or two before the biggest fight in your life.... sure boss! You're the man! You're tired boss... lem'me get that for you..... You're tha man! You're gonna kick GSP's ass boss!....you know why...CUZ YOU ARE THE MAN!!! BJ is a badass for sure. He's a monster......at 155. I believe that he's been fighting his whole life. I'm sure he had to overcome some hurdles... who hasn't. But when your training crew is a bunch of 'yes men' added to the fact that your last few fights were dominating, how can you not think ...'these guys are right... I AM THE MAN! GSP doesn't stand a chance!'

on the other side........

GSP's relationship with his training partners and coaches is exactly that. Their first responsibility to one another is being a professional in their sport. Second is the friendship that they get from their first responsibility..... think about it..... GSP training hierarchy consists of his coaches/trainers who reins at the top(not so sure but either Greg Jackson's Camp and TriStar is at the top of GSP hierarchy).... then follows the fighters which include in this case some of the most dynamic fighters in today's game.. Everybody is there for one reason and that is to make themselves a better fighter but more importantly have a family of people who are there to strategize a game plan for your strengths and push you to the limit and then some....... Their camp's strategy seem to focus on the fighter with the up coming fight and have the rest of the camp help prepare that one teammember any way they can. I love how these guys travel as a team to wherever they need to be to help one another out. You need people to push you to your limits... looking to knock you out, looking to get you to tap and trying to make you mentally quit. I doubt BJ has that type of training environment and that is only to his demise.

Yes I agree. Fans should not tell fighters when to hang em up. Especially that idiot BJ. I want to see him quit some more and see him look more pathetic. Bj penn is as soft and fluffy as a cabbage patch doll and his whole camp is a joke..."don't piss me off Georges..." rofl. Haha. "we're on schedule Dana. For the peaking phase." omfg what a loser. Then too gutless to continue

fuc#ing wankers, first only counts in handgrenades and auto racing. why don't you guys that call first drink bleach and f#ck a blender. If there is another fight between GSP and Porkchop i predict this outcome, foot/face/curb for Boob Jiggler Penn.

BJ was greased too... I know I pushed KY up in him that morning of the fight. I even did the "Dirty Sanchez" on him!

i find it hilarious that people rush to be the 1st to post on an entry... even when the person has absolutely nothing of benefit to say. i do believe this is the definition of a "Tool" :D

Didn't BJ say just last week that he was gonna quit?
Didn't he say that?
Hey BlowJob make up your fucking mind, you gonna quit or you gonna fight?
whine some more BITCH J !
Kenny Florian is gonna cut that coconut head of yours you ape-looking piece of shit. :)

KTFO - blah - hahahahaha!!! A grease allergy! Good one. Props to you for that. Maybe we should ask Hughes if he has a similar allergy.

ftg314 also had a brilliant question, which was why didn't the press challenge BJ as they would anyone else? I mean, look what Rogan said to Hughes when he got his head kicked in during his last loss. Joe came right out and asked him if retirement was the next step for him.

That said, I wonder why the press didn't challenge Penn at least a little bit there - sure, he's very popular (or, he was) and has near legendary status, but we all know the press are sharks and will take you apart if you give them reason to do so. And yet nobody went anywhere near the question of why he wasn't better prepared, what's he going to do to bring his game up to the next level, which is clearly needed, and if he's going to adjust his training regimen or link up with any of the established camps to round his game out some more. None of that. If you remove the lube accusation, it's as if he fell into a black hole in terms of the media.

And still, props to GSP for remaining a classy competitor to this point by not using the press as a menium for bashing competitors .

I'm Gay

BGay Penn

Is the condition of B.J.'s face due to a grease allergy?

gsp is strating to act like matt hughes a cocky asshole who thinks he cant be beat but his day will come maybe. Bj penn needs to just accept he got beat by a better cheater lol fighter. cheater cheater cheater crybaby craybaby craybaby.

You say this...

"There are other reasons but I think you get the point, there is no way bj's just "being a bitch" or "being a sore loser" as is implied in the title of this article....he's just pissed gsp cheated, like anyone one of his critizers would most definately be if they were him."

You're being naive. BJ talked a lot of cr*p before the fight (i.e. "I'm going to kill you GSP"). Now that he has been destroyed, he's looking for a way out. Out of what? Out of his lack of class and lackluster performance.

He's not running away you say? Where are the post-fight interviews where journalists ask him

- "BJ, why were you so awful?"
- "BJ, are you overrated?"
- "BJ, why can you talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk?"

And I'm not saying he should've given interviews from the hospital, but in the days after the fight, he didn't make himself available, he refused to be interviewed by media except local "friendly" ones. All he did was try to hype the greasing issue.

GSP is right when he says BJ always looks for excuses instead of looking at how he can improve his game. Look at the video.

The NSAC's ruling will bury Penn.

No BJ never admitted such a thing you effing idiot, his camp did. BJ has never commented on it until now, so this is the first thing he's said.

Wow, there's a bunch of dumb F#%&'s on the internet.

If you aint cheating, you aint trying.

gsp would of won the fight wearing a trench coat, hip waders and rubber boots. Penn couldn't get a submission in there first fight now why the hell would he be able to get one against a better gsp in the second fight

Uh, I'm a little confused but are you saying you thought GSP was LnPing in the last fight? Is your definition of ground and pound only a Wanderlei rape choke beating?

BJ got his ass beat. Until he learns to train harder, I don't see the reason for another GSP fight. He's physically smaller and weaker than GSP. It's just a mismatch. That said, if he learned to train hard in a real MMA sense instead of a "I train harder than when I was dicking around before" sense, he'd have a shot. I hope a loss to Kenflo will wake him up. It sucks to see BJ's potential go to waste but his attitude makes it really hard to like him.

Dammit my response was to Kalohe

What if BJ turns the tables, and uses vaseline for his next fight. Can you imagine a greasy BJ? I can. Mmmmm. Oh, I can. In fact, I could sure go for a greasy BJ right now. Mmmmm. [sigh]

LOL at the idea BJ would have won "if only GSP hadn't greased".

Apparently the 900 punches to the head he took are severely affecting his memory.

bj and rampage are so similiar. great excuses for every lose they have had...

weatherman and durrrr - great comments. it's nice to see some brain power behind comments that say more than "fuck you biatch whiny crybaby blah blah blah..."

i have had about enough of this topic at this point. my reasoning? in short, i don't think there was any manner in which bj could have pulled a victory out of his ass that night; his offense was tentative, his defense was so weak that he, as one of the greatest takedown defenders of all time, only defended against two takedowns successfully, and it looked like he left his motivation in his other pants that night. he was outgunned, outmuscled and outperformed in all ways during the fight, so whatever was or wasn't on gsp's shoulders in whatever amount has been reduced to a non-factor in that respect.

further to all that, bj is being outclassed by gsp in that georges has offered another fight to him, with rash guards no less, to eliminate any possibility of doubt about the outcome of the match.

on a related topic, i must agree with several of the other posters here by saying that bj can shove a rematch up his ass. this because it is unfair to deny other contenders in the respective weight classes the opportunities that they have earned to go for the title.

i mean, let's say you're florian and you've just learned that bj will fight gsp again in the summer. so now you've been put off for another four months, plus another possible one or two for bj to recover from the concussion and other injuries he sustains in the loss to gsp, and then finally another four to six months' time required to build up to his title defense. so there's a full year you've got to wait while penn jerks off the ufc, the fans, and bona fide contenders in order to massage his ego. pfffft!

Before the hype of this fight started, I had a huge amount of respect for Penn; as a brilliant fighter and as a stand-up guy. The first fight was close. When watching it I truly wanted Penn to win and thought that maybe he did. Watching it a second time; in my mind GSP did win that fight.

When the second fight was announced, I thought it was a great match-up and was super thrilled to see it. I could not decide on who I wanted to win more. Then the primetime series started and Penn started his trash talking, which was not even that articulate or inspireing. Not that one should let a TV-show change one's mind, but Penn said what he said and at the end of the series I for sure wanted GSP to beat him up good and make him swallow all that BS; "I'll fight to the death, I'll try to kill you, you'll think I'm God" etc etc.

Come fight night, Penn was truly manhandled by a superior GSP. Penn was dominated in every aspect of the game. The way he quit was sort of a divine justice; if you're a "bitch when tapping from strikes", what are you then when you're quitting in between rounds 'cause you can't take it?

Penn's statements after the fight has not only made me a bigger fan of GSP than Penn, it has made me lose every ounce of respect for Penn. In stead of just admitting that GSP was and is the better man (by far) and earning somme of the lost respect back, he is crying like a little girl and looking for excuses. Penn shouöd learn from his losses and improve, which takes a camp that doesn't treat him like the pampered primadonna he obviously is.

A third fight? Penn doesn't want that. GSP would then have to make an example of him, but hey Penn can always refuse to come out after the bell.

weatherman2012 i absolutely agree with you
gsp beat trigg, sherk, and bj, before he even trained at the jackson camp, how many of those fighters mentioned still have flourishing careers? you can't call something cheating if there are not written rules against it, and oh just because someone said someone was greasing doesn't mean its true, maybe if hughes woulda said gsp felt greasy in their first fight one would go hmm there could be something there, but coincidently he felt greasy in the fights where he had his ass handed to him, like gsp said they might be jealous because their careers are on a downward spiral and they're looking for something to get in the spotlight. if bj keeps this bitching up not many people, including myself are gonna wanna pay to see him fight cuz his attitude sucks ass.

even this doesn't tarnish gsp's image in my eyes, its not like he took the vaseline himself and rubbed it all over, or even that it was a large amount. i for one will more so remember how classy and respectfully gsp has handled this situation more than anything, it shows you the true character of a person. all those greasegate bandwagon jumpers have no class, if they were gonna complain shoulda done so at the time, its over and done with so why bring it up

BJ's comments bring to mind something Dana said about him around the time he first came back to the UFC. Basically in not so many words he said that BJ will fight you just to prove that he can. And if you do beat him, he will just keep coming back everyday until he wins.

BJ is a bitch!

I really hope Joe Silva doesn't give BJ a rematch just because he and his assramming fans bitch a whole lot. That is how we got this mismatch in the first place after BJ went 0 - 2 at 170. GSP destroyed him, and he doesnt deserve a rematch. Screw that little bitch!

I don't see BJ winning at that weight against St. Pierre. He is not even that lean at 155... He is at a severe disadvantage purely in size. I think St. Pierre and Penn are similar in p4p ranking, but going up in weight to fight makes Penn look far worse.

What superfights really should do is have the two fighters meet in the middle weight-wise.

Before the hype of this fight started, I had a huge amount of respect for Penn; as a brilliant fighter and as a stand-up guy. The first fight was close. When watching it I truly wanted Penn to win and thought that maybe he did. Watching it a second time; in my mind GSP did win that fight.

When the second fight was announced, I thought it was a great match-up and was super thrilled to see it. I could not decide on who I wanted to win more. Then the primetime series started and Penn started his trash talking, which was not even that articulate or inspireing. Not that one should let a TV-show change one's mind, but Penn said what he said and at the end of the series I for sure wanted GSP to beat him up good and make him swallow all that BS; "I'll fight to the death, I'll try to kill you, you'll think I'm God" etc etc.

Come fight night, Penn was truly manhandled by a superior GSP. Penn was dominated in every aspect of the game. The way he quit was sort of a divine justice; if you're a "bitch when tapping from strikes", what are you then when you're quitting in between rounds 'cause you can't take it?

Penn's statements after the fight has not only made me a bigger fan of GSP than Penn, it has made me lose every ounce of respect for Penn. In stead of just admitting that GSP was and is the better man (by far) and earning somme of the lost respect back, he is crying like a little girl and looking for excuses. Penn shouöd learn from his losses and improve, which takes a camp that doesn't treat him like the pampered primadonna he obviously is.

A third fight? Penn doesn't want that. GSP would then have to make an example of him, but hey Penn can always refuse to come out after the bell.

bj, stop talking about this fight. you got a very serious ass whooping session and you should behave like a a grown man and a professional athlete and shut the fuck up.
you've been sounding like a spoiled bitch for a week now.
aint that enough?

jeeees-us christ. this shit is never gonna end. its like fuckin nipple-gate all over again.

BJ got dominated, grease or no grease .. the more he keeps this up, the more fans will lose respect for him .. i lost mine when he didnt answer the bell after the 4th round, especialy when he was the one calling GSP a "quitter" ... now he is callin him a cheater .. fuckin pathetic.

go away BJ, or better yet .. keep GSP in your mind and take Ken-flo lightly, then get your ass kicked by him and then retire .. and then do us all a favor and stfu and go back to hilo and stay there "prodigy" .. champions do not act like this, have some dignity for god sake.

Yea, my son sure is a dumbass.

When Tuf Guy first heard GSP was accused of "greasing" he thought it meant GSP also enjoyed wrestling with his family dog after slathering peanut-butter on his penis. Thinking that both him & GSP had so much in common, Tuf Guy grabbed a gallon of Skippy Extra Smooth. Sadly, this would be Sparky's last tussle :-)

is there anybody that realy want to see GSP kills BJ another time.... and keep the division on hold for like another 6 month... at least if they fight again please let them go to the death

Just like everyone thought Silva was going to beat the crap out of Rampage in their 3rd match up. Ask the "Axe Murderer" how that worked out for him. I like St. Pierre, but he sure did a lot of laying and praying.

Anyone on BJ's side receives ass to mouth from homeless people. I'm not saying you do. I'm just saying.






...faggots!

Thank god we get to watch BJ run his mouth again... and then get his ass beat

BJ couldn't lock in a submission because he was too busy getting his @$$ beat...not because of grease..

I like the people who give the "Well, what do you expect him to do, if people are just going to call him out for calling GSP a cheater?"


Hey morons, if this really was an issue, then he should have brought it up in their first fight, which was a close decision loss, not the fight where he gets brutally dominated in his standup, has fuck all cardio, and doesn't try any BJJ beyond a failed rubber guard.

What I REALLY don't understand is why so many of you are gay for BJ Penn? GSP is a much more attractive man and he's French too. Re-evaluate your choices, gentlemen.

BJ should of known that when you're rocking the Baldo Renaldo during a fight, bad thing are going to happen.

Did anyone check the rules? There are none! Only California has rules stating vaseline can only be applied to the face. NSAC rules only use the word "excessive" grease applied to the body. WHere do you draw the line between excessive and "just enough?" Everyone who is arguing GSP's victory needs to go to their rooms, take off their shoes, lay down in their beds, take 20 or 30 minutes and GO FUCK THEMSELVES. Give it up already. This whole LubriGate thing is like the macarena. Its just a phase that will soon pass.

I like the argument that grease on one means grease on two. If it nullifies one of your weapons, use another. What, you don't know how to get off your back? This is mixed martial arts, not Baby J Jitsu. Everyone talks about BJ's amazing jiu-jitsu skillz and also what an amazing boxer he is. So, where was the boxing? Where were his takedowns, sweeps, armbars, ankle locks, rear-naked chokes, guillotines? I didn't see any of it. I saw a guy getting owned at every step with no answers whatsoever.

And yeah, BJ gave Georges a stiff eye poke in their last fight and what did the Canadian do about it? He fought through it like a warrior and won. End of story.

p.s. TUF guy is a faggot. Hey buddy, instructing others not to take the internet to seriously? Your dedication and commitment to verbal ass whoopings are pathetic. Get a lady friend or somthing homes, you look desperate and i pitty you.

I officialy dont like BJ anymore...he's such a little cry baby. STFU BJ, accept your loss, go home to your island and stuff your fat face full of pork and pineapple. No one wants to hear it accept for your little faggot fans who fluff you every chance they get. Oh, and i would love to see BJ get whooped for a third time in a row, maybe a third ass whoopin with GSP wearing a rash gaurd will probably shut BJ up for once....although i highly doubt it. Bitches....

Lets get the fight done ASAP and finish this once and for all. Screw waiting 6 months. Both fighters are prepared now, so lets get it done.

GSP really should stop greasing himself, not only its gay, its cheating too.

NOOOOOO! id rather see gsp fight alves than silva....a silva gsp would be the biggest fight in the history of mma!! more so than penn vs gsp

andeson silva vs gsp!!! make it happen dana make it happen


plus i got a huge cock

This is awesome! I've been wanting to call something "Oil Doping" for ages now!

Celtic-Devil, well said.

Durrrrrrr, all good points.

Anonymous Bosch, hilarious fucking name. Well done.

My two cents - if the reports are true that it is not technically against the rules to lube the body, then GSP's corner was not technically cheating. Ethically, were they not "fighting fair"? Probably not, but fighters bending the rules is common practice. I've seen BJ throw punches with an open fist on several occasions that land as eye pokes. Is the same thing as intentionally lubing the body? No, but it would be rediculous to expect all players in a sport like fighting to strictly adhere to the rules all the time. Do you think that all these fighters that are coming forth to say they've experienced "greasy" opponents haven't done questionable things themselves at one point or another?

Honestly if anyone thinks that a bone dry GSP would have lost to BJ in that fight than they are smoking the a huge fucking crack pipe.

The thing that bothers me is that now GSP's image is a bit tarnished from the whole thing, AND the way that BJ is handling the loss is making him look like a chump. I'm sure that GSP will rise above this ok, but I wish that BJ would just take a step back focus on getting his mind and body back into shape rather than flip flopping around on the topic. Part of what makes a champion is their mental strength and though BJ has crazy physical talent he's not so sound and resolved in his mind.

I do hope that the rules become more clear after this mess. It sucks that this story is getting so much attention because the sport doens't need anymore bad press spilling over into the mainstream affecting how the greater public sees it.

It's good to see a lot of intelligent comments on this board though. The sport has come a long way.

massiveamounts you crybaby

I think Massiveamounts should be wearing one of those shirts that say "LOOK AT ME!!!". He definitely needed the attention.

I think BJ should hang up his belt and goto 170 if he wants a third shot at GSP. Stop keeping KenFlo from getting what is rightfully his.

Why are people acting as if BJ is some untalented scrub now? The writer of this piece included? He didn't look good agianst GSP thats a fact but it's also a fact that he is one of the best fighters in the game today. Lets see, he just beat Sean Sherk, Joe Stevenson and Jens Pulver, he aslo took Matt Hughes belt and was dominating in their second fight until his lack of cardio came into play and he finished each one by Sub or TKO. All of these fighters are top notch competition.
The guy is a shit talker and doesn't pay enough attention to his cardio but his talent is unquestionable. People are confusing his attitude with his skill. GSP lost to Matt Hughes and to Matt Serra and nobody counted him out. BJ's first fight with GSP went the distance and was a split descision and he pounded GSP's face for half the fight. A rematch would in no way be a foregone conclusion with someone as talented at submissions as BJ is. Comparing them to Tito and Shamrock is ridiculous.
The only people BJ has fought have been top caliber fighters and he has won more than lost. OH...he also has a champion belt around his waist...his second one.

You're a god damn idiot.......I wouldn't of left my name above such an "absurb" post either.

I can't stand fans that think they should tell a fighter when to hang them up, who the fuck are you, son, are you in that cage, have you ever stepped inside a cage to fight......shut your mouth and know your role. It's to cheer and boo, not tell a fighter anything he should or shouldn't do...specially a champion like bj. You fucking clown.

10pound, the only people giving bj shit about this are clowns like you who've never competed in sports and have never felt the agony of defeat, specially on the worlds biggest stage during the biggest fight of your career. You've got no clue and should shut your nerdy no sports playing interweb geek ass.....as should the others critisizing him.

What do you guys think bj should do......just accept that someone cheated against him and not say anything....so it could happen to other fighters in the future.....anyone of you would be doing the same thing, or would you just accept that someone cheated against you?

I can't believe I'm even having to agrue this point with anyone.....why would you accept that someone cheated against you...it makes no fucking sense.

Don't give me that shit, "it didn't affect the fight" for one you have no idea, and if greasing doesn't affect a fight then why is it illegal, why is it not accepted, why is it fighters would think of greasing to begin with if it doesn't help. Even if it didn't affect the outcome it's still fucking illegal, and not allowed so thats a moot point, it doesn't matter if it affected the outcome....it's fucking illegal.

"To be honest he was really slippery and I don’t mean that like technically-wise, he was really slippery. I don’t know, I don’t want to speculate and say that something was used or whatever but he was just hard to hang on to and that was from all the positions. Even when I had him in like a headlock or a guillotine everything was just really slippery...all I know is I’m good at keeping those positions and I know the difference between sweat and something else and it felt like something else but who knows. (Jokingly) Maybe it’s Albolene left over from the day before from the weight cut!" — Kenny Florian politely accuses Roger Huerta of being a filthy, greasy cheater.



I forgot heres another jackson guy who was accused of greasing.....you people that are calling bj a sore loser are making fools of yourself. I wonder what your pansy asses would be saying if that happen to you?

oh bj bj bj... U have now lost the respect of most mma fans who have any smarts whatsoever.. This fight was as one-sided contest as anyone could imagine. Yes it looks like nurse applied a "blob" of lube to the back.. maybe... kizer immediately stepped in and wiped the substance off so hard that he was probly dry of sweat as well.. So who has the advantage at the start of the 2nd round?? anyhow, im so tired of this shit it makes me scream.. The idiotic display from nurse in pierres corner had no effect on the outcome of the fight.. you talked your shit saying anyone who " taps from strikes, is a bitch" or " hes a front runner, once you get through, he will fold" nonsense that sharabi said it correct, bj will have alot of razor blades to swallow if he quits.. and thats exactly what happened. Bj is having a tough time realizing that pierre is simply just the better fighter and every aspect.. Listen, I hated the rematch in the first place because there are well deserved contenders in each division with alves and florian waiting patiently. But to ask for even another rematch is absurb.. Bj makes me sick and i have lost what respect I have for him.. he is losing a fan base by every post on here... hang em up bj.. please!!!! for your sake and everyone elses.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....I COULDNT SET UP A SUBMISSION..WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

awww baby J....Grow up..

the guy got pwned hard and is asking for more...He's like the jenna jamesion of mma!

I'm not buying the whole pre fight grease bath thing you mentioned. I've never actually tried it so i don't know, maybe it does work. It just seems to me that when you take in to consideration the fact that these guys sweat alot warming up in the locker room and would probably sweat most if not all of it out there. They would also have to wipe it all off before they entered the ring so that the guy who inspects them before they enter wouldn't find it. At that point i couldn't imagine any of this oil still being inside a fighter's pores. that would have to be an awful lot of baby oil

I don't get why so many people are giving BJ shit about this. First, many quality fighters have come out and said gsp felt greasy during thier fight....Hughes, Mayhem, Trigg , Shrek...and the list goes on, about 6-8 fighters in fact, don't recall the exact number but damn I would think that would be enough but theres other guys like Diego who when he fought out of the Jackson camp was accused of greasing....just look at the Diego/Diaz fight...the guy looks like he's go Soul Glo in his hair it's so damn shiny.
The reason no other fighter has came forward with these accusations before is because of the same fools that are giving bj shit, you're accused of being a sore loser and talked shit about......why that is, who knows. Secondly, the commision has stated gsp illegaly had vasl. on his back, stopped Nurse twice and wipped or attempted to wipe because if you know what vasl. does when your sweating you know that shits not coming off without soap and water...but the commision flipping out in the cage couldn't of been because of anything else but gsp having the vasl. on his back, how anyone can try and refute that I'll also don't understand. Thirdly, the video clip from Danas blog where Chuck flips out stating he was greasing, along with Dana him fuckin self saying, "yeah gsp was greasing, he's in big trouble" ffs how can anyone deny that? I think the boss sitting right there seeing it, him admitting it happen, where it could most definately hurt his bussiness, call into question a sport thats trying to get sanctioning in many states......you dont' think he would of even talked about it much less admited it happen if it truely didnt? Fuck no he wouldn't of.
There are other reasons but I think you get the point, there is no way bj's just "being a bitch" or "being a sore loser" as is implied in the title of this article....he's just pissed gsp cheated, like anyone one of his critizers would most definately be if they were him. Also one more point, everyone says it didn't affect the outcome of the fight.....how can we say that? How many mma fights have you seen where someone is getting thier asses handed to them only to pull of a sub and win.......many many fights...I'll admit that gsp looked very dominant and most likely would of won no matter the grease but watch the fight, you'll see how bj's legs just slide of gsps back like he was slick as ice, I know gsp's ablility to posture up is second to none almost but you can't tell me that bj doesn't have the ability to get that high gaurd at least once or able to hold it for a short while......no fucking way, it's obvious to me something is wrong by all the gifs I've seen......his god damn legs just slip right off...show me any bj fight where that happens, and again gsp's posture is awesome but come on, just look at the fight again if you don't believe me. I'm done there are other points but I've got to work a bit today..lol.

Oh and TUF Guy, you still ducking me homie........no bet? You scared you, it's cool just say you're scared and I'll ease off you.

It is really a shame this curtis sample person only knows the word "phirst", since he spends so much time waiting to get to comment on articles. If he had more than a second grade reading level, he might be able to actually comment on what the article was about.


It is an even bigger shame that BJ actually thinks he has ANY chance in another fight against GSP. He needs to accept defeat and move on. He IS going to lose to KenFlo if he can't get over this loss, which he clearly can't, and isn't willing to accept that no amount of lube was needed to beat his head into the ground. I'm sure after KenFlo beats him, we will suddenly hear from BJ how he greases, or payed the judges or ref, or uses steroids, or some other half-assed excuse why he can't deliver on his alleged talent anymore.

Maybe if BJ was any type of threat in this fight, I could see him complaining, but he didnt do shit! Did St. Pierre get the better of the stand up because he was greasy?

BJ showed practically zero offense. He thinks his half assed attempt at rubber guard (incorrectly) didn't work because of the grease? It was caught as soon as it happened and he was toweled off.

Yeah it was wierd and shouldn't have happened, but get over it. Bring on a rematch, it'll be another $400K in GSP's pocket.

"Apparently, one thing you can do is take a hot bath the night before a fight to open the pores, then rub yourself down with baby oil, then stand in front of an air conditioner to close the pores again; you will literally sweat oil the next day."

WTF?

It seems to me that this could be a double-edged sword. Sure, you would be slippery as a pig, but on the other hand, all that grease could keep you from completing submissions. If your arms are all slick, it's gonna make pulling off a clean kimora, leg lock or armbar a lot tougher IMO.

Man, the lengths people will go to....

The best part about this whole fiasco is that the NSAC rule is so vague that nothing is going to come out of any investigation, because the rules weren't really broken.

Man up bj, you got absolutly crushed on Saturday by GSP. You were no where near his league. If this is the way its going to be every time you lose, save us all the hassle and excuses and just quit or retire now. You suck bj, big baby. Go out with hughes and get some ice cream, you might feel better.

I guess BJ is happy to throw his legacy away and look like a pussy.

A greased up gay man beating up on a Cabbage Patch Kid for a third time? Count me in!

Penn is a bitch...

Thank God that Joe Silva is the UFC's matchmaker, and not BJ Penn. Because if it were up to the Prodigy, we'd be seeing this matchup until Penn finally wins one (then retires), or until one of them dies. Bloody Elbow aptly describes the prospect of an ongoing St. Pierre/Penn series as "a more athletic version of Ortiz/Shamrock." And of course it further prevents the UFC's top lightweights and welterweights from getting a chance to fight for a title.


SOO TRUE. and this is all because of Penn

@cpanger

hahahaha true champs like bj

major props to Celtic-Devil on this one. its true. i hope bj penn reads this shit and starts to think for a little bit. hmmm but really though i wonder if that little bitch reads cagepotato?? HE SHOULD. he needs to back off this whole incident

why do people get so excited to be the first to post something?
congratu freakin lations, your all true champions. just like BJ.

I am a BJ and a GSP fan. After that display, I think GSP would win this fight 19 times out of 20.

BUT!

I still think that LubriGate needs to run it's course and that Penn needs to put pressure on the NSAC and the Jackson camp.

BJ doesn't need a rematch, but I think he is allowed to be pissed that GSP had a "witch doctor" applying greasy hands to GSP's back, chest and shoulders. It is perfectly reasonable to be pissed off about that. If you knew you got your arse handed to you by a person who was greasing (even if he was better than you) you'd be pissed off too.

A lot of good can come from all this bickering. The NSAC will shore up its rules on greasing and Jackson's camp will be scrutinized (Practically all of his fighters have been accused of greasing at one time or another which is enough to make any person who is intellectually honest with themselves a little curious as to what his camp is doing).

Doesn't BJ have a daughter? He should really think about his kid and keep his mouth shut because GSP might actually kill him if they fight again. Goddamn BJ I am losing more and more respect for him everyday.

Dear BJ,
As a young boy I had a great ambition to someday become an adult film star. It was a passion that was deep deep down inside me and so very much wanted to come out. I often day dreamed in school about what my life would someday become. I had trained very hard setting up a camera and practiced my moves in front of the camera. I had many training devices to help me with my dream. But as I got older I realized that it was not to be. It was very tough to deal with but I knew I had to pursue other avenues in my life. So basically what I am saying BJ is go spank it into a napkin and accept that you can't beat GSP and be happy with the 155 pound title. The End!

OMFG!!! First off ..... props to Celtic-Devil!

BJ ...... Really? You wan't to get your ass kicked again? The only thing I (WE) saw was you trying to hold GSP, not sweep, not really punch, poor submission attemps.

There are Turk fighters/wrestlers who coat themselves in oil and still manage to toss, choke and SUBMIT their opponents (without being a spolied whiney
little biatch).

Please Mr White! The UFC fans DONOT want another Tito/Shamrock trilogy. BJ DOES NOT deserve another shot! 0-2

Oh, any IF GSP was greased, wouldn't the grease transfer onto BJ? Making BJ greased? GSP had NO problem holding him down and beating the crap out of him.

Adding to this theme, Travis Lutter said that two people he fought were greased up.

It's on the latest Carson's Corner.

Shut up son

What a sore loser. Ben, you hit it on the head: BJ Penn will keep wanting rematches until he wins. The only thing you forgot to add was that Penn will keep making lame excuses as well. I would not mind seeing a third fight so that I could here Penn's latest excuse for a loss to GSP.

"Nate the Great basically broke any rule he could trying to win against Leites."

Those "rule breaks" didn't help him, they cost him the fight that he easily won. He dominated and beat the crap out of Leites the only reason he lost were for point deductions, one of which was accidental (knee to the head) and the other was just plain bullshit. He did NOT strike him in the back of the head it was crystal clear that it was to the side of the head. That dumbass ref job cost me $300.

This is never going to end. Bj is going to keep bitching and moaning until they fight again. Then he will lose again and come up with some other bogus excuse.
"His glove was loaded bro!" or "He bit me!", or something equally as retarded.
BJ you gave up. Between rounds. There is nothing that makes you more of a bitch in MMA than that. Get knocked out, tap out to a submission, TAP OUT TO PUNCHES! But for the LOVE OF GOD, do not give up between rounds.
That's just unforgivable.

a little grease on the back didnt cause that superman jab to flatten bj's face any more than it not being there

What a douche

In a perfect world GSP would fly down to hilo and dump that retarded coconut on his spoiled ass and pound the shit out of him in the sand.

" I know Rashad evans did in fact use the same method of applying baby lotion before his fight with Tito, he got called out on it, and never even challenged it "

Proof is a wonderful thing. To assume fighters like GSP and Rashad and Nate the great need to cheat to win is just retarded. Who knows if they push the limit or not, we can all sit around and speculate but none of us really know the truth.

Fact is a wonderful thing. There are no rules against vaseline on the body in an MMA fight. We can say what we like but this is a fact. If it is indeed the bane of grappling then you'd think they would maybe have a rule against it before they put on 94 fucking pay per view event's.

Bending rules and or pre greasing.. Again some may not agree but at the end of the day how is greasing your pores the day before the fight any different then cutting massive weight so you have a 15lb advantage? We are all worried about a little vaseline that could or could not even help. Who knows. But hey lets give fighters over 24 hrs to pack on another 15-20 lbs. Because we all know 15-20 extra lbs in a fight isnt nearly as effective as a bit of grease.

To me all this bitching and conjecture is just stupid, even if the vas wasn't a mistake there is nothing that can be done at this point. There arn't rules against it at this moment. People should put the energy where its needed, to re look a lot of the MMA rules and what not. Make it totaly illegal to grease the body, put in rules about who handles the vas and who touches the fighters. Other than this all we can do is keep an eye open and see what happens. Who knows what other rules arn't there that should be.

I feel sorry for the next couple people who have to fight someone out of the Jackson camp, you will be fighting someone who is fighting for the honor of his camp and name. GL with that.

I'm sure rules are bent all over the place - why not complain about how much weight someone is cutting?

But in this case Penn got the living shit kicked out of him. There was nowhere in that fight where Penn could have grappled himself to a win anyway - we've seen how good GSP is at defending against subs, ever since that losing to Hughes.

Is GSP drinking a gallon of baby oil the night before the fight to keep his skin so pretty? Maybe he just sweats a lot. Maybe Penn sweats a lot since he was a pudgy out of shape chump in that fight.

This is really boring. If Penn wasn't a sore loser, he would have called GSP on this in their first fight - you know, the ONE THAT WAS A CLOSE DECISION. Not the one where he got his face smashed in and had to call uncle with one round left.

I liked BJ Penn. His attitude was always a little annoying, but I really enjoyed his fights and I like watching a talented fighter dominate his weight class. But now I don't want to see this dumbass in the cage again - are we going to have to listen to him whine every time he loses? It's pathetic. And the Penn nut huggers here are pathetic for condoning this kind of attitude in a top shelf fighter.

I know what GSP must feel like. No matter how many times you own someone they just keep comming back trying to redeem themselves. I mean look at all you guys, I have pretty much humiliated each and every single one of you, but you idiots just keep comming back for more.

PS: Gargamel , thanks for the dedication thread in the Forums! I am glad I've been eating your sould alive while I am not even around. LOL x a gazillion to the millionth power. The post was a great succes! It was an EXCLUSIVE with 2 replys...one of them which was yours LOL!!!!
YOU FAIL AT LIFE!!!
Don't take this internet thing so serrious. You get an C- for effort though.

There are some good match-ups for Ken-flo and Alves if they do, in fact, have to wait for another rematch for their title shots. If Diego can get by Joe Stevenson, wouldn’t a TUF 1 Finals rematch make a good LW #1 contender match for April or May? Diego vs. Kenny for the LW title shot would make a lot of sense, and this time it would be at their natural weight. You can also put Alves against Swick or even Fitch for the WW title shot. Alves vs. Swick would make more sense though, since Swick has been on a good winning streak and also showed interest in an Alves fight. Then you can take the two winners and give them their title shots later on this year. Look, I don’t want the titles put off for another year anymore than you do, but this is just a scenario for if they decide to go in that direction.

Suck it up B.J.... you lost twice and you'll lose again, GSP just keeps getting better...something you cant really do at this point.
- LtD

Wow Mac, Interesting info. If this is true, you have to wonder what the hell is going on in Greg Jackson's camp that makes them so desperate that they have to use Lube to have an extra advantage in a fight. I mean, most of the guys in that camp are already very talented....why would they need something extra to make sure that they win. Makes u wonder their mind set....are the fighters that insecure. That is pretty sad if this type of shit is going on. U better believe that any and all Athletic Commissions will be closely watching this behavior....they will especially have a close eye on any fighter in Greg Jackson's camp.

A couple days ago BJ was saying the alleged greasing would not have changed the outcome of the fight.

But now the bitch comes out and seems to be implying that he would have won if GSP had not greased up (I dont actually believe he greased in any case). Whether GSP was greased or not is besides the point now. BJ lost the fight becasue GSP was just better...he admitted this and also admitted any "greasing" would not have changed the outcome. Now he is taking all that back, and somehow believes he is entitled to a rematch?? Anyone see how BJ's attitude is starting to change as time goes on?

BJ is, quite clearly, full of fucking shit. He is a whiny little punk bitch who cant come to terms with the fact that he is not quite as good as he believed he was. BJ is self-delusion personified. Grease or no grease, BJ got fucking owned and if keeps running his mouth off he will get fucking owned again.

I sincerely hope he gets his rematch, just so GSP can put an even worse beat-down on him and shut his lazy, spoilt and self-delusional mouth.

What a goddamn punk.

OH my GOd! Stop it already!

I do not want to see a 3rd fight between these guys anytime soon.
Let BJ fight Ken-Flo and GSP Alves... both of those guys have to many challangers for the titles that they hold to allow them to fight each other again.

FIRST AGAIN BITCHES!!!! AWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

Curtis Sample is a dumb shit loser.

Ok, got that over with. I truly believe, just like with any other sport..rules are pushed to the limit, cheating is an art form, and damn near everybody does it. I know Rashad evans did in fact use the same method of applying baby lotion before his fight with Tito, he got called out on it, and never even challenged it. I have no doubt GSP does similiar tactics, Nate the Great basically broke any rule he could trying to win against Leites. I'm seeing a bad trend out of Greg Jacksons camp, and it's not just nipple tweaking!

he loves getting his ass kicked haha