MMA Fighter Challenges People to Punch Him in the Face, Everyone Fails

Shane Carwin Blames Referee Josh Rosenthal for Setting Off Chain of Events that Led to Loss to Brock Lesnar


(Rosenthal, WTF? You made me dump my adrenaline with your sweet talk.)

When Shane Carwin went from the being on the brink of dominantly beating UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar in the first round of their title tilt last Saturday night to feebly succumbing to an arm triangle choke in the second frame, many people were left wondering,"What the hell happened?"

Carwin, who originally claimed that his body locked up as a result of lactic acidosis, now says that his lack of energy to finish Lesnar was a result of a massive adrenaline dump, caused by the instruction of referee Josh Rosenthal


Carwin explained the interesting series of events that led to his defeat to Heavy.com.

“During the first round, (referee) Josh (Rosenthal) was telling Brock to fight back or he will stop the fight,” explained Carwin, going back over the action from Saturday’s event in Las Vegas. “Every time I heard that, I unloaded a little more and eventually just punched myself out.”

His decline in performance near the end of the first round when he seemed to have the fight in the bag caused many to question his cardio and whether or not working a full time job while training part time was partially to blame for Carwin’s rapid energy depletion.

According to the Trevor Wittman Grudge Training Centre trained fighter says the claim is without merit.

“Anyone who questions my cardio should come and train with me. We trained for a twenty-five minute fight but things go wrong. It happens. I basically had an adrenaline dump towards the end of the first (round) and I was unable to recover in between rounds. I think the biggest factor of the adrenaline dump was hearing Rosenthal say, `Brock I am going to stop it,’ and then not stopping it,” admitted Carwin. “He said it at least three different points in the round, and each time I went for the finish and it never came. It sucked the wind and life out of me.”

Despite the overwhelming consensus that champions need to train as if it’s their job, Carwin thumbs his nose at the notion that he should quit his day job as an engineer if he wants to compete.

“I am surprised by how many people view their jobs as an obstacle to chasing your dreams. The job has allowed me to become the fighter I am today; it has not hindered me in any way. I find it insulting that people do not understand that. Ask any of the pro fighters I train with if they out train me or think I could be a better fighter if I was in the gym more. Fact is I might be the one in the gym the most."

“My life has a structure to it and I include training into that structure,” continued Carwin. “I am not shooting movies, working on TV shows, or working in a 9-5 bank. I am a full-time fighter, full-time engineer, father and husband. My whole life I have been a multi-sport athlete and was always required to do my fair share around the house and in school. The fundamentals of life came before the pursuit of my dreams.”

If he ever gets another chance to fight for the title again, Carwin says he won’t let the opportunity slip him by again, believing he has the tools to disassemble the champ. Recanting on earlier claims that he felt Lesnar "go out" when he connected with punches in the opening stanza, he says that he could have had his hand raised if he had just connected with one bomb.

“If I had it to do all over again I would probably go for it again. If some of those hard blows landed he would have been knocked out. This was the biggest fight of my life and I swung for the fences and came up short. Next time, I won’t falter and I will have my hand raised.”

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Callahan618- July 11, 2010 at 12:41 am
Even Bas Rutten, one of the legends of MMA, agrees the fight should have been called....he has a little more credit than you keyboard warriors. Talk more...everyone knows.
Ric Gillespie- July 10, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I am the furthest thing from a Lesnar or Carwin fan, but I think saying Carwin blames the referee is stretching it a tad. And for those of you saying Rosenthal should've stopped the fight, you're right ... He should've and he did ... once Carwin tapped out. Good call, Josh.
bigHAL13- July 10, 2010 at 12:59 pm
@armfarmer
I THINK I LOVE YOU BASTARD LOL
bigHAL13- July 10, 2010 at 12:58 pm
@armfarmer
good then leave me the hell alone and let me put my comments up without your sorry ignorant ass trying with all your heart and soul to make me look as stupid as you look. now go on about your biz and back off.
ArmFarmer- July 10, 2010 at 10:07 am
I'm honestly not a big Carwin fan. I just think there's a lot of unfairness and dumbass people in here. It was a great fight, Carwin brought it to Brock like no one expected, Brock showed the heart and determination of a champion, and after weathering the storm he put Carwin away with some skillful and well executed techniques. I am only defending Carwin so much because he is the one being unfairly attacked due to a poorly written headline and a misleading article.

He basically said he lost the fight because he blew his energy in the first round trying to finish, and was too gassed to defend in the second. Is that news to anyone? Didn't we all know that the minute the fight ended? I just think there is a lot of unwarrented Carwin hate going around.

Like I said I have nothing against Brock, and I have defended him as well when people talk like he's not a real fighter. I completely respect his wrestling background, his athleticism, and the hard work he's putting in. I thought it was an incredible night of fights and at the end of it I wasn't upset at all just blown away. All I'm trying to say is that Carwin is a good dude and he's not making excuses, and that he deserves a rematch at some point soon considering the beating he put on Lesnar in the first. I think if he paces himself and keeps the fight standing Carwin could have his hand raised next time. I also thing it's just as likely Brock would win. Just trying to be the voice of reason in a comments section full of feeble minded people and children, but there are some intelligent posters in here as well.

That's all I have to say about it, you guys can continue being immature and flaming and jumping to rediculous conclusions now.
ArmFarmer- July 10, 2010 at 9:54 am
@bighal

I don't argue with children.
jayhawk560- July 10, 2010 at 1:37 am
You are right! The fight should have been stopped..
In one of the post fight interviews with Brock and Kenny Florian, Brock said he didn't know where he was for a few minutes. How can you intelligently defend yourself if you don't even know where you are at? Shane should be wearing the belt.
tony marrow- July 10, 2010 at 12:19 am
so Lesnar looked like a big pussy to you eh? well it must suck to get submitted by a pussy. brock got back up and fought back but carwin would have actually died if he didnt tap. you sir are not as smart as your anger makes you think you are.
MMAGURU- July 9, 2010 at 8:12 pm
First things first I am a Brock Lesnar Fan well I was untill ufc 116, This fight was leaning towards the champ literally Xcuse my grammar.

I bought the PPV I felt every punch Brock took to the face well atleast It felt that way.

Way Dramatic lol Matter fact I thought The ref was going to stop the fight When Brock Survive the 1st round I said sweet and when Brock won I was stoked till I saw the post fight Interview when Brock SAID " I want to thank the ref for not stoping the fight? Thank God he came to my room before the fight started, He asked me Heavens Forbid If I see you in trouble you dont want me to stop the fight?

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTT BUll CRAP IT meant that the ref was leaning towards Brock before the fight took place ,

flat out I Lost respect for Brock I dont care who you are that is cheating Period. I aint down with cheaters I know alot of nobodies here that dont know anything about MMA going to blahhh blah.

WEll imagine you in a fight that you worked your but off and it happens to you nahhhhhhhh My respect to carwin The real champion all of you runing you fingers off if you know what I mean saying aw he gassed out yes he did after he demolished brock on the 1st round carwing was not going to win with that reff unless He knocked Brock cus the reff sold out I wonder How much Brock Payed him.

MMA is turning to be just like boxing is all about crooks and what the powers at be says who is going to win
dranokills- July 9, 2010 at 7:56 pm
jesus hal you got banned and had to come back under another name, you make it known you were the old hal, and you still act like the same person, but less LARGE LETTERS. you are a retard, even when you try to make sense.
Why are you here if you can't change? was being banned not enough? you need it twice? grow up. Sometimes you have to learn to just not reply to every little thing.
bigHAL13- July 9, 2010 at 4:46 pm
@armfarmer,
i'm old enought to keyboard whip the shit out of you! how old are you? i'm going to guess that your real name is shane "crybaby" carwin also. right or wrong? you sure talk like a carwin on the losing end of a championship fight. just can't except it can you mr armfarmer? DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON CAUSE YA HAVE NO OTHER OPTION, and therefore you try and pick a keyboard fight with the one person "THATS ME" that makes the most sense on this whole entire thread. like you said to me earlier, DEAL WITH IT
dranokills- July 9, 2010 at 4:00 pm
C-Bus Allstar Says:
Fri, 07/09/2010 - 15:31

I think one thing is PAINFULLY obvious... Next to none of the commentators here actually train and fight.
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so fucking what? no on in HAS to train to be able to comment you moronic fuck.
You think just cause people don't train they don't know anything? your a cunt.
I can coach, it don't make me a goddamn football player you stupid douche, but I assure you I know what I'm doing, so what does training have to do with commenting?
Here eat this bag-o-dicks, and shut the fuck up while the adults talk, you obviously don't know your ass from your elbow.
timboslice- July 9, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Shane's right...the only reason why Rosenthal didn't stop it is b/c someone in the higher office told him to hold out as long as possible....don't think so? How about Kimbo Slice vs. Roy Nelson on the HW TUF? Kimbo was UFC's cash cow....until Roy Nelson dropped two full rounds of non-effective UNANSWERED blows to Kimbo. The ref stopped it eventually. Think he was right in waiting to stop the fight? How about Condit vs McDonald? McDonald got fucked out of a UD with 7 seconds left. How about Leben vs Simpson? That fight got called standing up. What about Kampmann vs daley? That was called standing too. Brock Lesnar is nothing more than a cash cow in Dana's barnyard. Come on man. If Brock loses, the UFC suffers the loss of a bunch of uneducated band-wagon fags (I mean, fans)who like fake-ass WWE. Shane Carwin got fucked. Period. Should the ref really ask THREE times? The power punch stats: Carwin 77 Lesnar 2. Do the math...Carwin landed 75 UNANSWERED blows mostly to the face and head of a cowering Lesnar, and 74 in the first round. Two things....he may have won the fight, but Lesnar got his ass kicked, royally. AND I wanna know what was going thru all those BL fans heads when he was getting his ass royally kicked? Were you scared? You should have been, because the Kimbo effect nearly got ahold of Brock.
timboslice- July 9, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Shane's right...the only reason why Rosenthal didn't stop it is b/c someone in the higher office told him to hold out as long as possible....don't think so? How about Kimbo Slice vs. Roy Nelson on the HW TUF? Kimbo was UFC's cash cow....until Roy Nelson dropped two full rounds of non-effective UNANSWERED blows to Kimbo. the ref stopped it eventually. Think he was right in waitng to stop the fight? How about Condit vs McDonald? McDonald got fucked out of a UD with 7 seconds left. How about Leben vs Simpson? That fight got called standing up. What about Kampmann vs daley? that was called standing too. Brock Lesnar is nothing more than a cash cow in Dana's barnyard. Come on man. If Brock loses, the UFC suffers the loss of a bunch of uneducated band-wagon fags (I mean, fans)who like fake-ass WWE. Shane Carwing got fucked. Period. Should the ref really ask THREE times? The power punch stats: Carwin 77 Lesnar 2. Do the math...Carwin landed 75 UNANSWERED blows mostly to the face and head of a cowering Lesnar, and 74 in the first round. Two things....he may have won the fight, but Lesnar got his ass kicked, royally. AND I wanna know what was going thru all those BL fans when he was getting his ass royally kicked? Were you scared? you should have been, because the Kimbo effect nearly got ahold of Brock.
ProfessorMMA- July 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm
there are some good points in here, and while i have always been a Lesnar fan i think he got lucky in that Rosenthall was the ref.. I could see others stopping that fight. that being said i actually think brock was intelligently defending, ive rewatched the fight twice now and every time Rosenthall tells him to defend he does something significant in my opinion.

as for carwin, i personally feel he gassed. i also agree with whoever it was that said he believed his own hype and punched himself out thinking he was headed to another first round victory.

anyone that still thinks lesnar sucks regarding his mma and his chin is absolutley a moron. he took some massive shots from carwin and never once looked rocked. he was definitely surprised or scared by them, but never seriously hurt (also just my opinion).

i dont think there is a person in the entire world that hasnt made an excuse for losing. we all do it, it sucks no one likes to lose. i still like carwin and cant wait to see him fight again. personally i hope he gets another shot at brock, as that was one of the more exciting fights ive seen recently, although i still would have my money on brock.

if carwin doesnt push the crazy chase and punch pace that leaves a major opening for lesnar to shoot and work his ground game, i have to say i think lesnar has carwins number, he's just a bigger better fighter.

all this being said, the 2 stupidest posters in this whole thread are ArmFarmer and Callahan... you guys need to get a grip and get off carwins nuts. there are lots of brocktards in here too, but you guys are just brutal.
ghostboner- July 9, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Wow. So I guess Wal-Mart was out of vagasil? Or maybe you chowder heads just couldn't find your vag because your gunther is obstructing the view? Sandy vag city in here. Controversial victory my ass. Carwin tapped out. END OF STORY.
ArmFarmer- July 9, 2010 at 2:46 pm
@bighal

How old are you?
ZombieRock- July 9, 2010 at 1:00 pm
J Rosenthal is a fighter too. He knows what to look for and could tell that Carwin's punches weren't fight -ending. And Brock proved him right by coming out fresh in the second. Carwin will be back though.
knucklesamitch- July 9, 2010 at 12:45 pm
You know, I wrote another long ass message, but then I just decided it was pointless, so I'll say this, if Carwin wants a rematch, he needs to fight and win 2 fights and here they are:

The loser of JDS/Roy Nelson...If he wins...
The winner of Mir/Nogueira II...if he wins, he gets Lesnar again...Assuming Lesnar makes it past Velasquez and the winner of JDS/Nelson.
bigHAL13- July 9, 2010 at 12:21 pm
@armfarmer

at least you got one thing right, and thats about me being a keyboard warrior. i'll keyboard beat you to death you idiot. now on to the topic here. "not the ufc heavyweight that made Brock look like a scared little girl getting throttled by a grown man" HUH, who tapped like a sissy bitch????"Brock had the horse shoe up his ass this time, and if they ever fight again everyone knows Brock has no chance. Deal with it." HUH HUH, brock needed someplace to store that horse shoe untill the second round, and then he reached up there in that big ass of his, and pulled it out and smashed SHANE "CRYING" CARWIN over the head with it and made him ahhhhhhh what was it carwin did after that? oh yeah HE TAPPED LIKE A BITCH. if brock were not better then carwin then brock would not be the champ right now. SOOOOOOOOOOOO DEAL WITH THAT BITCH
Fried Taco- July 9, 2010 at 11:38 am
Carwin lost because he let Brock stay down in the 1st round. He should've backed off and forced Lesnar to stand up, then beat the crap out of him on his feet. Everytime he fell down, force a stand-up. It won't take long for the ref to end the fight then.
Ballkick- July 9, 2010 at 11:31 am
ArmFarmer makes sense, I have nothing much to add.
Let Cain give his best shot, and probably get steamrolled by Brock.
Give Carwin anyone in the HW div. Let that KO happen.
Then .......let them fight again. The fans want it!
I will bet the biggest roadblock to this happening will turn out to be Brock and his camp ducking this rematch.
116 was the first PPV I bought from the UFC in a very long time, it was the first one that warranted the over-priced cost. I will pay again for Lesnar-Carwin II. Regardless of who's on the under card.
thebassmaster- July 9, 2010 at 11:30 am
I'm surprised by the excuses Carwin is coming up with. Take the loss like a man and come back stronger, I'm still on the Carwin train.
X- July 9, 2010 at 11:27 am
Gentlemen...please...calm down...none of this matters.....Cain Velasquez..is going to be and stay champ......save your breath......
knucklesamitch- July 9, 2010 at 11:25 am
@armfarmer,

I'm not saying Carwin can't fight for 5min, I'm pretty sure he can, and I'm saying he can't be Brock. I'm a fan of Brock because I think people are too quick to to discount him because he's a former WWE-er and a dick.

The thing is, whether Carwin can or can't fight for 5min, he hasn't...and the one time he was forced to, he lost in the 7th minute.

To me, Carwin deserves another shot, but not until after Cain (obviously), and not until Brock gets the winner of JDS/Nelson...And Carwin should face the loser of JDS/Nelson.
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